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Forums - Sales Discussion - Famitsu Sales: Week 30, 2020 (Jul 20 - Jul 26)

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curl-6 said:

This feels cruel at this point but Switch to PS4 hardware ratio for this week is 87:1

What will you do when PS4 sales are 0? You can't have a ratio with 0!



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From the top 30

NSW 25 (10 third party)
PS4 5 (3 third party)

Switch had 10/13 = 77% of third party games in the top 30 this week.  Switch continues to have 60-80% of the third party games every week and this week is no different.



Farsala said:
curl-6 said:

This feels cruel at this point but Switch to PS4 hardware ratio for this week is 87:1

What will you do when PS4 sales are 0? You can't have a ratio with 0!

Switch to PS5 I guess? XD



RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

At this point I'm starting to think MH Switch is most likely never happening.

It would make too much common sense, and when it comes to the Switch, Crapcom don't do common sense.

The rumors that concerned a Monster Hunter World announcement included a statement that Sony paid off Capcom to prevent new Monster Hunter games being made for Switch. Each passing month without a MH announcement for Switch adds more credibility to this rumor. That would also be by Monster Hunter World is impossible on Switch, according to Capcom. Not because of technological hurdles, but contractual ones.

This is the first I'd heard about this rumor.  But after a quick Google search this is what I found specifically:

 

While it has been stated previously, Capcom's management was once again asked if there were any plans to port Monster Hunter World over to Nintendo Switch during a shareholders meeting. The answer was simply "no."

However, when Capcom was asked if it would consider developing a new Monster Hunter game that could be popular with high-school kids, the company said "yes." 

Due to Monster Hunter World's lack of portability, it's not as popular with Japanese high-school students, which is why Capcom is likely keen on developing a Monster Hunter game specifically for the Switch.

https://www.laptopmag.com/news/monster-hunter-world-not-coming-to-switch-but-another-game-might



Prepare yourselves for another Monster Hunter Stories type game or a Monster Hunter Lite... anything would be an improvement from nothing 



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

This is the first I'd heard about this rumor.  But after a quick Google search this is what I found specifically:

 

https://www.laptopmag.com/news/monster-hunter-world-not-coming-to-switch-but-another-game-might

What actually gives what Rol posted some ground is ironically not MH itself but what happened with SFV as that game has a contractual agreement to keep it off other non PC platforms as SFIV was heavily favoured on the Xbox platform because of Live so such a case as the rumour he's referring to is possible.

To respond to an earlier post where someone mentioned about sales even that's not the case because MHW's sales are across 3 platforms when you break down the performance per platform the portables still perform comparable to what MHW did per platform for example from Capcom's own numbers: http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html

MHF - 4.9m
MHG - 4.3m
MH4U - 4.2m
MH4 - 4.1m
MHFU - 3.9m
MHGU - 3.6m

What's interesting here is MHW did 15m across 3 platforms but Iceborne expansion in comparison did 5m across the same 3 platforms where as in the portable side of things the userbase are more dedicated as seen with the consistent numbers for reference 80% of MHF went to MHFU, over 100% of MH4 numbers transferred to MH4U, 90% of MHG to MHGU and so on.

Last edited by Wyrdness - on 31 July 2020

RolStoppable said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

This is the first I'd heard about this rumor.  But after a quick Google search this is what I found specifically:

https://www.laptopmag.com/news/monster-hunter-world-not-coming-to-switch-but-another-game-might

"Monster Hunter game" can mean a lot of things, but what people want is mainline Monster Hunter.

For the 3DS, Nintendo made a deal with Capcom to prevent mainline Monster Hunter coming to all other platforms (most importantly, PS) for the duration of a generation (2011-2017). That left the door open for Monster Hunter Frontier and other spinoffs if Capcom wanted to.

I consider it very probable that Sony did the same thing, starting as soon as Nintendo's contract with Capcom ended. Except that Sony specifically targeted Nintendo alone, hence why Monster Hunter World could still release on Xbox and PC. That kind of exclusivity deal comes cheaper than outright exclusivity and for Sony it only ever was about Nintendo to begin with.

In any case, there's a chance that a Monster Hunter spinoff could release on Switch, perhaps something like Monster Hunter Stories for the 3DS which was a different kind of RPG set in the Monster Hunter universe. But mainline Monster Hunter shouldn't be expected.

Well, that would definitely make sense.  Of course, the details of the deal would matter quite a bit, and that is what we don't know.  Monster Hunter is the most important third party game in Japan.  For Capcom to leave the main franchise off of portable devices completely, Sony would have to had made them one hell of a deal.





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Wyrdness said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

This is the first I'd heard about this rumor.  But after a quick Google search this is what I found specifically:

 

https://www.laptopmag.com/news/monster-hunter-world-not-coming-to-switch-but-another-game-might

What actually gives what Rol posted some ground is ironically not MH itself but what happened with SFV as that game has a contractual agreement to keep it off other non PC platforms as SFIV was heavily favoured on the Xbox platform because of Live so such a case as the rumour he's referring to is possible.

To respond to an earlier post where someone mentioned about sales even that's not the case because MHW's sales are across 3 platforms when you break down the performance per platform the portables still perform comparable to what MHW did per platform for example from Capcom's own numbers: http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html

MHF - 4.9m
MHG - 4.3m
MH4U - 4.2m
MH4 - 4.1m
MHFU - 3.9m
MHGU - 3.6m

What's interesting here is MHW did 15m across 3 platforms but Iceborne expansion in comparison did 5m across the same 3 platforms where as in the portable side of things the userbase are more dedicated as seen with the consistent numbers for reference 80% of MHF went to MHFU, over 100% of MH4 numbers transferred to MH4U, 90% of MHG to MHGU and so on.

No context at all.  MHW and its 15 million is not comparable to Iceborne and its 5 million.  The 15 million for Monster Hunter World is after 24 months on the market, MHWI's 5 million is after six.  So if you feel that MHWI's sales will remain at 5 million for the next 18 months, then you have a point but you know that is not happening and that sales of that game, and the original, are higher than the 15 and 5 respectively anyway (as we will see in their upcoming earnings report).  Capcom would be stupid to break those type numbers to sell less as a Switch exclusive.

The best apple to apple comparison is that after 6 months, MHW did 8.3 million (2 consoles), after 6 months MHWI did 5 million (3 consoles) which is a 60% retention

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RolStoppable said:

2020 surpasses 3m YTD in week 30, a bar that 2019 didn't clear until week 46. If 2020 is flat from here on out, it will finish with sales of ~5.85m; that's more than half of what the PS4 sold lifetime in a single year.

As for current PS4 sales, that looks more like Sony not caring one bit about the supply chain than anything else. If there were no supply constraints, then the PS4 could sell 6-10k units per week, but such a baseline doesn't add up to anything significant over the course of a few months (~50k extra units), so that's why it likely wasn't worth an effort on Sony's part.

Week 2019 Weekly 2019 Cumulative 2020 Weekly 2020 Cumulative Difference Weekly Difference Cumulative
1 225.698 225.698 284.827 284.827 59.129 59.129
2 83.136 308.834 116.301 401.128 33.165 92.294
3 71.672 380.506 96.458 497.586 24.786 117.080
4 51.556 432.062 67.987 565.573 16.431 133.511
5 66.448 498.510 75.922 641.495 9.474 142.985
6 61.042 559.552 100.961 741.456 39.919 181.904
7 64.313 623.865 80.312 821.948 15.999 198.083
8 49.139 673.004 41.490 863.258 -7.649 190.254
9 66.453 739.457 53.098 916.356 -13.355 176.899
10 67.624 807.081 50.585 967.941 -17.039 160.860
11 55.478 862.559 57.274 1.025.215 1.796 162.656
12 56.812 919.371 392.576 1.417.791 335.764 498.420
13 49.852 969.223 282.561 1.700.352 232.709 731.129
14 46.850 1.016.073 154.640 1.854.992 107.790 838.919
15 54.101 1.070.174 25.313 1.880.305 -28.788 810.131
16 40.338 1.110.512 27.874 1.908.179 -12.464 797.667
17 42.108 1.152.620 107.104 2.015.284 64.996 862.664
18 41.735 1.194.355 78.731 2.094.015 36.996 899.660
19 41.736 1.236.091 78.731 2.172.746 36.995 936.655
20 32.564 1.268.655 38.380 2.211.126 5.816 942.471
21 25.936 1.294.591 52.557 2.263.683 26.621 969.092
22 33.154 1.327.745 107.593 2.371.276 74.439 1.043.531
23 33.590 1.361.335 68.192 2.439.468 34.602 1.078.133
24 34.321 1.395.656 55.187 2.494.655 20.866 1.098.999
25 29.058 1.424.714 78.428 2.573.083 49.370 1.148.369
26 59.184 1.483.898 93.799 2.666.882 34.615 1.182.984
27 75.481 1.559.379 52.250 2.719.132 -23.231 1.159.753
28 55.823 1.615.202 96.879 2.816.011 41.056 1.200.809
29 45.596 1.660.798 113.197 2.929.208 67.601 1.268.410
30 42.689 1.703.487 125.231 3.054.439 82.542 1.350.952
31 36.613 1.740.100
32 46.338 1.786.438
33 46.339 1.832.777
34 30.072 1.862.849
35 90.553 1.953.402
36 77.392 2.030.794
37 51.619 2.082.413
38 239.740 2.322.153
39 196.489 2.518.642
40 89.137 2.607.779
41 56.680 2.664.459
42 54.067 2.718.526
43 69.438 2.787.964
44 119.397 2.907.361
45 88.772 2.996.133
46 180.136 3.176.269
47 179.992 3.356.261
48 186.763 3.543.024
49 188.501 3.731.525
50 236.625 3.968.150
51 291.485 4.259.614
52 234.268 4.493.885

If we scale sales proportionally to last year, switch could very well sell 8mil+ and the funny thing is the only thing stopping it is how many units Ninty can produce



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