There seems to be two conversations going on here.

1. People can date whoever they want. That is true.

2. Trans people and their partner(s) doesnt owe anyone anything or need to tell anyone about their sex life. That is true.


So why the anger? We all agree.

You were the one that brought your sexuality to the thread.

I haven't talked about my sexuality at any point.

I implied being trans at some points.

There is 7 Billion people in the world each with different physical and mental attributes.

We likely only get potentially attracted by 1-10% of that population each, and it is mostly based on silly things like hair color, skin collor, height, weight, etc. Most doesn't really mean anything in the end, some can potentially mean for procriation, we are still based on those instincts of viable and healthy offspring. But no sane person will say that you have 10 different phobias to justify you not getting atracted by the other 90-99% of people in the world.

Myself I rarely find a black girl attractive, but have dated some and they were just gorgeous. My taste is mostly for blonde blue eyed, still I married, love and find gorgeous my japanese-italian descendent wife. That have nothing to do with biggotry, it is just what visually attract us at the first moment, then on second moment we are going to learn more about that person and truly generates feelings and pursue a relationship. Anyone trying to neglect visuals for first contact or trying to portray that as discrimination is basically wrong. Also sure that anyone that only concerns with physical appearance and neglects all the other features of a partner is quite dumb as well.

Summary, only the person know why or what attracts him and labeling that person because of that person's reasonings is just wrong.

And being trans have nothing to do with your sexuality?

YES

This is the one thing most sociologists, feminists and psychiatrists have concluded from the past 50 years of gender studies.

Also I'm asexual so the idea that anything impacts my sexuality is quite comedic to me.

The issue I see with Rol's thought process is not that one is defining who they would date based on some criteria, but that that dating criteria is how you define who is and isn't a woman.

"what stood out is the statement that transgender women are women.

Simply ask yourself if you would draw a line between dating women and transgender women; if you are honest about it, the chance is higher than 99% that you will draw a line. At least I hope I am correct in assuming that 'transgender woman' means that a penis is still attached to such a person."

So basically transgender women can't be women because 99% of cis straight men wouldn't wanna fuck them and that's just "common sense"

The conversation is exactly about transexuality. And you hinted at being trans.

Guess you are mixing it with sexual life and activity (that we aren't discussing and really isn't of anyone concern).

But to deny that being transexual have nothing to do with your sexuality is strange for me.

If you are asexual then none has anything to do with your sexuality but that's you so speak for yourself and not other trans people,when being trans it is often not clear what's in your pants(for others) when you are looking for a potential partner and then it is important to be honest about it.

That is true. You should always be honest about it. Just like people should be honest about having an infectious disease or having a criminal past or whatever. Not only because of the person you are trying to get together with, but for your own sake. Many trans people have been beaten up or worse because a straight man feel like they were fooled. Its dangerous to not be honest before you get intimate with someone.