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Conina said:
src said:

The problem with this methodology is that it equates every game. Its more nuanced than that. PS4 getting FF7R or Ghost of Tsushima is more prominent than the PC getting Monster Train.

That's why I listed the games. If you want to do the entire list, then placing them in the following categories would be best:

  1. AAA
  2. AA/A
  3. Indie
  4. Very popular Indie (Fall Guys, Among Us, Huntdown etc)

Its very obvious to see that Playstation gets the best third party support in the AAA, AA, A areas.

List of PS4/5 games that will not be on PC:

  1. Granblue Fantasy
  2. Project Awakening
  3. Bablyon
  4. FF7R2
  5. FF16
  6. Persona
  7. Sakura Wars
  8. Aegis 13 Sentinels

Why are you so sure that a new Granblue Fantasy game won't be on PC? Granblue Fantasy Versus already is: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1090630/Granblue_Fantasy_Versus/

Why are you so sure that Project Awakening won't be on PC?

Why are you so sure that Babylon's Fall won't be on PC? It was announced for PlayStation and PC.

Why are you so sure that Final Fantasy 7 Remake won't be on PC? Final Fantasy 1 - 15 already are on PC.

Why are you so sure that Final Fantasy 16 won't be on PC? Final Fantasy 1 - 15 already are on PC.

Why are you so sure that a new Persona game won't be on PC? Persona 4 Golden already is on PC and sold very well.

Why are you so sure that Sakura Wars won't be on PC? Most SEGA games already are on PC.

Why are you so sure that 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim won't be on PC?

Because they have not been announced for PC. Simple.

By your ridiculous logic any game can come to any platform at any time. Are we sure Knights of the Old Republic won't be getting a PS6 port?



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src said:
Conina said:

Why are you so sure that a new Granblue Fantasy game won't be on PC? Granblue Fantasy Versus already is: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1090630/Granblue_Fantasy_Versus/

Why are you so sure that Project Awakening won't be on PC?

Why are you so sure that Babylon's Fall won't be on PC? It was announced for PlayStation and PC.

Why are you so sure that Final Fantasy 7 Remake won't be on PC? Final Fantasy 1 - 15 already are on PC.

Why are you so sure that Final Fantasy 16 won't be on PC? Final Fantasy 1 - 15 already are on PC.

Why are you so sure that a new Persona game won't be on PC? Persona 4 Golden already is on PC and sold very well.

Why are you so sure that Sakura Wars won't be on PC? Most SEGA games already are on PC.

Why are you so sure that 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim won't be on PC?

Because they have not been announced for PC. Simple.

By your ridiculous logic any game can come to any platform at any time. Are we sure Knights of the Old Republic won't be getting a PS6 port?

Most of them haven't been announced for PS5 either, only for PS4. By your ridiculous logic they will not be on PS5 with improvements either.

And for most of these games we have no statement from Sony or the publisher, where they guarantee / officially announce PlayStation-exclusivity with no ifs or buts (so "Only on Playstation", without watered down exceptions like "timed exclusivity", "console exclusivity" or "exclusive launch").

Even if they first say "Only on PlayStation" and advertise that on the game cover, in some cases it turns out to be false a few months or a year later:

Also I gave reasons to most of your listed games, why a permanent exclusivity to the PlayStation platform is doubtful, thanks for ignoring that.

Last edited by Conina - on 06 December 2020

src said:
Conina said:

Why are you so sure that a new Granblue Fantasy game won't be on PC? Granblue Fantasy Versus already is: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1090630/Granblue_Fantasy_Versus/

Why are you so sure that Project Awakening won't be on PC?

Why are you so sure that Babylon's Fall won't be on PC? It was announced for PlayStation and PC.

Why are you so sure that Final Fantasy 7 Remake won't be on PC? Final Fantasy 1 - 15 already are on PC.

Why are you so sure that Final Fantasy 16 won't be on PC? Final Fantasy 1 - 15 already are on PC.

Why are you so sure that a new Persona game won't be on PC? Persona 4 Golden already is on PC and sold very well.

Why are you so sure that Sakura Wars won't be on PC? Most SEGA games already are on PC.

Why are you so sure that 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim won't be on PC?

Because they have not been announced for PC. Simple.

By your ridiculous logic any game can come to any platform at any time. Are we sure Knights of the Old Republic won't be getting a PS6 port?

At least he is making an educated guess, instead of making separate lists for each platform to bloat the numbers.  No other explaination for trying to add Tales of Arise, Dragon Quest XII, Nier Replicant, RE8, etc to your list, considering all of them are multi-platform in one way or another.

Then you go on to add confirmed timed exclusives like FF16, Ghostwire, etc, but try to downplay timed exclusives on any other platform.

And then you go on to downplay SMTV by saying it will "likely" come to PS5 later, but then try to call someone out for doing what you just did.  Big pot and kettle moment here...

You do realize people are only using your own twisted logic against you to show how flawed it is right?  With all the defensive flip flopping and dodging of the actual topic, you are only proving our point.



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src said:

Are we sure Knights of the Old Republic won't be getting a PS6 port?

I hope PS6 gets it, it is a classic.

I also hope that Valve is porting Half-Life Alyx (and the rumoured "Codename Citadel") to PSVR2 / PS5... it is a shame if awesome games are stuck on only one platform instead of going for a bigger audience with capable hardware, no matter their hardware choice.

That is the difference: you seem to wish for more exclusivity deals to keep games away from a majority of gamers... I'm not.



Conina said:
src said:

Are we sure Knights of the Old Republic won't be getting a PS6 port?

I hope PS6 gets it, it is a classic.

I also hope that Valve is porting Half-Life Alyx (and the rumoured "Codename Citadel") to PSVR2 / PS5... it is a shame if awesome games are stuck on only one platform instead of going for a bigger audience with capable hardware, no matter their hardware choice.

That is the difference: you seem to wish for more exclusivity deals to keep games away from a majority of gamers... I'm not.

Its got nothing to do with wishing. Your methodology is completely baseless hence there is no point in comparing.

Any game can come to any platform at any time, which is so far from reality that its hilarious.

With the occasions of unpredictability, comparing what one has at a point in time is far better.



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src said:
Conina said:

I hope PS6 gets it, it is a classic.

I also hope that Valve is porting Half-Life Alyx (and the rumoured "Codename Citadel") to PSVR2 / PS5... it is a shame if awesome games are stuck on only one platform instead of going for a bigger audience with capable hardware, no matter their hardware choice.

That is the difference: you seem to wish for more exclusivity deals to keep games away from a majority of gamers... I'm not.

Its got nothing to do with wishing. Your methodology is completely baseless hence there is no point in comparing.

Any game can come to any platform at any time, which is so far from reality that its hilarious.

With the occasions of unpredictability, comparing what one has at a point in time is far better.

MY comparison was of games ALREADY RELEASED in 2019 + 2020, so no occasions of unpredictability there.

Most of YOUR listed games on the other hand are games which aren't release yet and a final decision about exclusivity ain't announced yet. So it is your list (where you claim that certain third party titles aren't coming to PC / Xbox /Switch) which is pretty baseless and very unpredictable.



Why would anyone think this? When Sony can’t even keep exclusives they MAKE to themselves?

HORIZON is on pc. I’m sure God Of War etc will be in due time.



BlackBeauty said:

Why would anyone think this? When Sony can’t even keep exclusives they MAKE to themselves?

HORIZON is on pc. I’m sure God Of War etc will be in due time.

They can't? Where did you took that from? They made a decision to port the game, it had nothing to do with they not being able to do it.



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DonFerrari said:
BlackBeauty said:

Why would anyone think this? When Sony can’t even keep exclusives they MAKE to themselves?

HORIZON is on pc. I’m sure God Of War etc will be in due time.

They can't? Where did you took that from? They made a decision to port the game, it had nothing to do with they not being able to do it.

Fairly certain he wasn't being literal...



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Shiken said:
DonFerrari said:

They can't? Where did you took that from? They made a decision to port the game, it had nothing to do with they not being able to do it.

Fairly certain he wasn't being literal...

When using "don't" "won't", etc would be suffice while keeping the rest of the phrase the same, not sure why he would go with "couldn't" and have us interpret how literal or not he was being. I would guess there is a reason for the choice of word.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."