TES is both popular and influential, but most of it comes from Skyrim. You were talking about Morrowind specifically, and Bethesda pretty much ditched core RPG market in favor of progressively more mainstream experience after it (though, Morrowind was already somewhat toned down compared to Daggerfall). But, as I said, Morrowind was not the first, whole TES started as Bethesda's take on Ultima Underworld - both Arena and Daggerfall were there for anyone interested to play them, and people played them - they ruined nothing, they were just successors to different take on RPGs that existed even back in 80s...maybe you just missed them, or you were not interested in them, there was so many ways and attempts to convert tabletop RPG experience to video games (and none quite succeeded).

Personally, from that period, I'd take Might&Magic over any TES, but I knew lot of folks who were hardcore Daggerfall fans.

I was saying that I played Morrowind and didn't like it, but TES is even worse now because it is more popular.  Basically the rest of what you are saying is irrelevant to what I was originally saying.  We are talking past each other.

Morrowind.  There used to be a time when I liked every RPG I played.  There was no distinction between Western and Japanese.  They were all good.  If they got advertised and reviewed well, then I was going to enjoy it.  The crappy ones were intentionally downplayed, so I could avoid them.  Then Morrowind came along.  What a piece of total trash.  This games takes everything I like about RPGs and gets rid of it.  Fun leveling?  Gone.  An engrossing story?  Gone.  A party to control?  Gone.  Explicit goals?  Gone.  This game is just not fun in any way.  I didn't know people could systematically destroy a whole genre like this.

The worst part of all of this is actually the gaslighting.  I still hear people to this day trying to convince me that these are good games.  No, they aren't!  I've played them, and I know they suck!  Morrowind is probably the worst, because it's turned into Skyrim love.  I look at the reviews for Skyrim, "This game is great.  It's just like Morrowind."  Dammit!  So many people think Elder Scrolls are good games.  They have been gaslighted.  (At least this is how it feels to me.)  It sucks, because these games sell, and so more sucky games end up getting made.  Zelda actually got a course correction with Breath of the Wild, but Elder Scrolls and 3D Mario are still being made unchecked.  And these games end up influencing other games, so in the end there are fewer games out there which I actually like playing.  It sucks.

I was playing it in 2017, and clearly remember the guide saying the player could use cheats, like infinite ammo, and special "one shot" weapons. Or someting like that. Soooo, I just went to the same guide, and it's been updated.

It says "5/10 difficulty if you have the Digital version/do everything legit but 2.5/10 if you have the retail version and use the many available exploits"....So apparently the digital version is different. That's insane. Very weird. I've never seen a difference in trophies between digital and physical, ever.

I have the physical ( and digital too actually ), but whatever. Doubt I'll be going back to get the plat.

Regardless, you're repeating the tropes.  Maybe it started started at the lunch table at school or whatever, but the lazy digs remain the same.

Oh, I see.  So your complaint is aesthetics.  Even though you specifically said that it was a problem that you didn't have three hands.

You're backtracking.  And, regardless, complaining about aesthetics doesn't help out your case.

Oh, and admitted bias that has nothing to do with the controller.  Okay then.

Can't say I'm sure what point you're making.

This is what you said:

And I say horseshit to that, and explained you why - Morrowind was not the first, TES was not the first and just because you've missed the whole branch of video RPG development doesn't make the whole genre destroyed by one game.

Killzone 2.

The hype train for it was monstrous, it was built up as the ultimate killer app that would set a new standard for first person shooters.

Then it released, and it was thoroughly mediocre. The devs' attempts to simulate the character's weight and momentum just made it feel like I was controlling an obese drunkard, the admittedly impressive graphics technology was wasted on endless grey and brown industrial areas, the characters and story were horrid, and the gameplay a bland laundry list of first person shooter cliches.

Thankfully it's sequel was excellent and improved just about everything wrong with 2.

Really? to me kz2 is the most atmospheric shooter ever, well at that time anyway. From the pacing to the graphics, played it in one playthrough and loved it, found it very immersive, as though i was there. 

Yeah really, for all the reasons I listed. It did have a strong atmosphere, I will give it that, but the actual process of playing it felt like a chore to me.

Killzone 3 in my opinion is how 2 should've been; more varied in visuals and gameplay, and much more responsive controls.