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trunkswd said:
hinch said:
Nice. Would be awesome to see old legacy games running at higher res (like 1440p or 4k) and framerates. Should they launch a Series S, I'd be tempted to buy one for my older library and newer games.

Series S would be a great level entry console if the rumors are true. It is a step above Xbox One X, but is weaker enough than PS5 and Xbox Series X to be $200 or so cheaper. 

Yeah that would be great value. I mean, I usually buy a new Xbox controller for PC use anyway so win win for me; should it exist.

That, and I also really want to replay Lost Odyssey in 4k xP



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hinch said:
trunkswd said:

Series S would be a great level entry console if the rumors are true. It is a step above Xbox One X, but is weaker enough than PS5 and Xbox Series X to be $200 or so cheaper. 

Yeah that would be great value. I mean, I usually buy a new Xbox controller for PC use anyway so win win for me; should it exist.

That, and I also really want to replay Lost Odyssey in 4k xP

I wonder how much better games would look in 4k compared to what they looked like in 1080p or 480p for even older games. Higher fps and HDR will help. 



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It will be interesting to see what difference this makes. A lot of games have scaling resolutions and frame rates that fluctuate. I wonder how many will actually get that double frame rate treatment?

I’m not expecting much from the auto HDR now that I have looked into TVs that do it. Maybe MS will have better implementation of it but it looks bad on the TVs I saw.



That is really cool. Do you think they will add more games to the BC list?



Very well done although the bullet titles are a little exaggerated they are fair game.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
It will be interesting to see what difference this makes. A lot of games have scaling resolutions and frame rates that fluctuate. I wonder how many will actually get that double frame rate treatment?

I’m not expecting much from the auto HDR now that I have looked into TVs that do it. Maybe MS will have better implementation of it but it looks bad on the TVs I saw.

That can be a problem (I expect their algorithm do a good job), because RDR2 looked a lot worse with HDR than without because they basically just put a flag for the tv to threat that signal as if it were HDR (and allowed you to control luminosity and contrast if I'm not wrong). The result on my tv and several others were just a very bland and dead image.

As long as they allow you to chose to use HDR or not even if in some games it look worse it shouldn't be a problem.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

hinch said:
Nice. Would be awesome to see old legacy games running at higher res (like 1440p or 4k) and framerates. Should they launch a Series S, I'd be tempted to buy one for my older library and newer games.

A video showed Gears Ultimate apparently running at 4K on BC. That would simply be 1080p at 2x scale.

If they applied that to all games, even the 720p games would suddenly become 1440p. Nothing is confirmed yet, but that showed it could be done.



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KLXVER said:
That is really cool. Do you think they will add more games to the BC list?

I previously stated MS adding more BC titles is possible given their record.

They stopped adding OG Xbox to BC for like a decade. However, when it came to X1 they added more games to the store and seemingly fixed emulation bugs.



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Can't say this would make me buy Series X immediately, but I would like to see a Gears collection in the same vein of The Master Chief Collection, with Ultimate versions of 2 and 3. Something like that in year one. Not everything has to be about backwards compatibility.

I was close to getting the special Gears Xbox One X console, which was on sale several times bundled with all the games, but they were also vaporware versions. If they were all packaged on disc that would've pushed me into buying it.



Mr Puggsly said:
KLXVER said:
That is really cool. Do you think they will add more games to the BC list?

I previously stated MS adding more BC titles is possible given their record.

They stopped adding OG Xbox to BC for like a decade. However, when it came to X1 they added more games to the store and seemingly fixed emulation bugs.

I remember a clear new from Phil or someone of that level saying they had put a stop on launching new BC titles while they were working on Series X, I think it was Scarlet the codename? So with the XSX being near release they will probably add many more og xbox and x360 titles on the system while keeping almost 100% X1 also BC for XSX. All of that with automatic improvements so less burden on the team with some improvement for the user, even though BC doesn't bring many customers and I usually only play new titles this is a solid implementation.



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http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."