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sales2099 said:
eva01beserk said:
"Gameplay"?..........ok.

aside from the quality of games, this just tells me that all theese shows per month means that they are spreading what little they have across each month. I do not have even medium expectations for that july show.

People won’t be inclined to admit it, but nobody likes seeing 3rd party games at a publishers E3. It’s just fluff that advertises the competition as much as your own. Prepare to be surprised, people still very much in the dark on the beefing up MS has been doing lately. MS got their fluff out of the way. 

And the irony that Sony has thus far shown a logo, spec sheets, and a controller. No 1st party exclusives officially unveiled...I’ve known about Halo Infinite and Hellblade 2 for a while now ;)

You are right, it was really tyring to see the same game on e3 being shown like 5 diferent times. I really hope we are past that and third partys either show their stuff on their event only, or split games on diferent platforms, then step out of the conferences. Would save them money and would make the remaining shows a lot better.

And again, MS did have that one up on sony and just had to wait untill sony counters for them to counter again. But now they are piling up crappy anouncements one on top of another. Now its just a detriment to the inmage of the xbox. Just look at all the backlash this show is receiving. 

Its a saying as old as time.  If you have nothing good to say then dont say anything at all. 



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eva01beserk said:
sales2099 said:

People won’t be inclined to admit it, but nobody likes seeing 3rd party games at a publishers E3. It’s just fluff that advertises the competition as much as your own. Prepare to be surprised, people still very much in the dark on the beefing up MS has been doing lately. MS got their fluff out of the way. 

And the irony that Sony has thus far shown a logo, spec sheets, and a controller. No 1st party exclusives officially unveiled...I’ve known about Halo Infinite and Hellblade 2 for a while now ;)

You are right, it was really tyring to see the same game on e3 being shown like 5 diferent times. I really hope we are past that and third partys either show their stuff on their event only, or split games on diferent platforms, then step out of the conferences. Would save them money and would make the remaining shows a lot better.

And again, MS did have that one up on sony and just had to wait untill sony counters for them to counter again. But now they are piling up crappy anouncements one on top of another. Now its just a detriment to the inmage of the xbox. Just look at all the backlash this show is receiving. 

Its a saying as old as time.  If you have nothing good to say then dont say anything at all. 

This is a weird year with E3 being cancelled. Guess the masses expect that surprise AAA or 1st party exclusive. This wasn’t that show. Even those Xbox/Pc games are AA at best. It would really suck to see them alongside their best if E3 still happened. This way the fluff is out of the picture, Sony counters in June, but MS counters again in July. 



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sales2099 said:
eva01beserk said:

You are right, it was really tyring to see the same game on e3 being shown like 5 diferent times. I really hope we are past that and third partys either show their stuff on their event only, or split games on diferent platforms, then step out of the conferences. Would save them money and would make the remaining shows a lot better.

And again, MS did have that one up on sony and just had to wait untill sony counters for them to counter again. But now they are piling up crappy anouncements one on top of another. Now its just a detriment to the inmage of the xbox. Just look at all the backlash this show is receiving. 

Its a saying as old as time.  If you have nothing good to say then dont say anything at all. 

This is a weird year with E3 being cancelled. Guess the masses expect that surprise AAA or 1st party exclusive. This wasn’t that show. Even those Xbox/Pc games are AA at best. It would really suck to see them alongside their best if E3 still happened. This way the fluff is out of the picture, Sony counters in June, but MS counters again in July. 

Honestly, Im kind of glad and Im hoping E3 never comes back. It was a waste of time in my opinion and its the main reason for games getting anounced years before its ready just cuz they need to show something and fill a time slot. Now I hope devs and publishers do things on their own time when they are ready.

I hope you are right. I do really wish the new gen fires all cylinders so devs have a bigger push to drop last gen and optimize for 9th gen. All we can do is wait and see what sony reveals and from there see what MS counters with. 



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sales2099 said:
eva01beserk said:

You are right, it was really tyring to see the same game on e3 being shown like 5 diferent times. I really hope we are past that and third partys either show their stuff on their event only, or split games on diferent platforms, then step out of the conferences. Would save them money and would make the remaining shows a lot better.

And again, MS did have that one up on sony and just had to wait untill sony counters for them to counter again. But now they are piling up crappy anouncements one on top of another. Now its just a detriment to the inmage of the xbox. Just look at all the backlash this show is receiving. 

Its a saying as old as time.  If you have nothing good to say then dont say anything at all. 

This is a weird year with E3 being cancelled. Guess the masses expect that surprise AAA or 1st party exclusive. This wasn’t that show. Even those Xbox/Pc games are AA at best. It would really suck to see them alongside their best if E3 still happened. This way the fluff is out of the picture, Sony counters in June, but MS counters again in July. 

3rd Party games aren't always fluff. Normally we always had big franchises like cod, BF etc. that still got people excited for the next gen. It's strange for MS to spread their announcements like this as this first impression of the Series X and next gen in general was terrible. Maybe that is because E3 got canned but I got a feeling that Sony's official reveal will get people a lot more fired up about next gen and have some big ps5 exclusive ip's to demonstrate why people need to migrate to the ps5. Will MS do the same during the their July show? Who knows, but their exclusives better not be Xbox One games with a smart delivery logo on the screen as that will get them the same reaction as they're getting now.



Machiavellian said:
PotentHerbs said:
Some interesting stuff but overall underwhelming show considering the expectations. We didn't get much gameplay, aside from a couple of games, which is the biggest gripe for me. At the very least, I thought we'd get 20 - 30 second trailers of gameplay, not a bunch of in engine footage.

The first game looked the most next gen to me based on the mechanics: Titanfall wall running, the grapple hook, etc. One of the trailers with actual gameplay too.

Isn't this always the problem.  Gamers become over expectant of ever game reveal.  When I first read the headline and saw that MS wasn't showing any of their stuff, I instantly thought these must be cross gen titles MS is giving a platform to give them more air time.  I really did not expect to see anything shattering during the release of any of these systems until a year or more after their release.

Personally, I watch this show to see if there were anything I care about and there were a few i will be keeping an eye on.  My main reason for getting a PS5 and a XSX is due to being able to use them for playing all the games I love at the highest setting and hopefully 4K 60FPS. Then again, I never get hyped for a new gen.  I stopped doing that a long time ago.

I think it was the marketing that caused a lot of deflated hype. Most people knew MS first party titles weren't going to be present at this show. However, most people probably expected some gameplay sequences, to give us a taste of the next generation. Instead, we get in - engine footage, passed off as gameplay.  Another thing to consider is most expected a big third party reveal whereas we only got AC: Valhalla. 



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goopy20 said:
sales2099 said:

This is a weird year with E3 being cancelled. Guess the masses expect that surprise AAA or 1st party exclusive. This wasn’t that show. Even those Xbox/Pc games are AA at best. It would really suck to see them alongside their best if E3 still happened. This way the fluff is out of the picture, Sony counters in June, but MS counters again in July. 

3rd Party games aren't always fluff. Normally we always had big franchises like cod, BF etc. that still got people excited for the next gen. It's strange for MS to spread their announcements like this as this first impression of the Series X and next gen in general was terrible. Maybe that is because E3 got canned but I got a feeling that Sony's official reveal will get people a lot more fired up about next gen and have some big ps5 exclusive ip's to demonstrate why people need to migrate to the ps5. Will MS do the same during the their July show? Who knows, but their exclusives better not be Xbox One games with a smart delivery logo on the screen as that will get them the same reaction as they're getting now.

Unless it has exclusive perks or marketing rights, it’s fluff and a waste of a time slot. Because it’s multiplat end of day and not tied to a particular brand. 

MS trying something new it can’t go all well. I wasn’t wowed myself but didn’t expect to. The idea is that Sony blows this out of the water but the July show outperforms Sony’s. Really all depends on everything they have been holding back/what they willing to make public.

Halo Infinite alone will steal the show. We been waiting years to see it in action. Rumoured Fable and Perfect Dark reboots. Obsidians AAA game, Forza 8, etc. It’s not just about graphics but nostalgia and wow factor. I’m not worried but it does suck to have to wait two months to change the narrative.

The one thing the July event has is that it’s only for 1st party. Sony I feel will stick to tradition and do a mix of 1st and 3rd. The 3rd party games will add up on time and may limit the amount of 1st party announcements. Guess we’ll see for both sides. 



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goopy20 said:
sales2099 said:

This is a weird year with E3 being cancelled. Guess the masses expect that surprise AAA or 1st party exclusive. This wasn’t that show. Even those Xbox/Pc games are AA at best. It would really suck to see them alongside their best if E3 still happened. This way the fluff is out of the picture, Sony counters in June, but MS counters again in July. 

3rd Party games aren't always fluff. Normally we always had big franchises like cod, BF etc. that still got people excited for the next gen. It's strange for MS to spread their announcements like this as this first impression of the Series X and next gen in general was terrible. Maybe that is because E3 got canned but I got a feeling that Sony's official reveal will get people a lot more fired up about next gen and have some big ps5 exclusive ip's to demonstrate why people need to migrate to the ps5. Will MS do the same during the their July show? Who knows, but their exclusives better not be Xbox One games with a smart delivery logo on the screen as that will get them the same reaction as they're getting now.

if they do it wont be a game releasing any time soon as they already promised no next gen exclusives for a while. 



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sales2099 said:
goopy20 said:

3rd Party games aren't always fluff. Normally we always had big franchises like cod, BF etc. that still got people excited for the next gen. It's strange for MS to spread their announcements like this as this first impression of the Series X and next gen in general was terrible. Maybe that is because E3 got canned but I got a feeling that Sony's official reveal will get people a lot more fired up about next gen and have some big ps5 exclusive ip's to demonstrate why people need to migrate to the ps5. Will MS do the same during the their July show? Who knows, but their exclusives better not be Xbox One games with a smart delivery logo on the screen as that will get them the same reaction as they're getting now.

Unless it has exclusive perks or marketing rights, it’s fluff and a waste of a time slot. Because it’s multiplat end of day and not tied to a particular brand. 

MS trying something new it can’t go all well. I wasn’t wowed myself but didn’t expect to. The idea is that Sony blows this out of the water but the July show outperforms Sony’s. Really all depends on everything they have been holding back/what they willing to make public.

Halo Infinite alone will steal the show. We been waiting years to see it in action. Rumoured Fable and Perfect Dark reboots. Obsidians AAA game, Forza 8, etc. It’s not just about graphics but nostalgia and wow factor. I’m not worried but it does suck to have to wait two months to change the narrative.

The one thing the July event has is that it’s only for 1st party. Sony I feel will stick to tradition and do a mix of 1st and 3rd. The 3rd party games will add up on time and may limit the amount of 1st party announcements. Guess we’ll see for both sides. 

At bold. this might be the biggest issue. A tweet or interview wont be enough. 



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eva01beserk said:
goopy20 said:

3rd Party games aren't always fluff. Normally we always had big franchises like cod, BF etc. that still got people excited for the next gen. It's strange for MS to spread their announcements like this as this first impression of the Series X and next gen in general was terrible. Maybe that is because E3 got canned but I got a feeling that Sony's official reveal will get people a lot more fired up about next gen and have some big ps5 exclusive ip's to demonstrate why people need to migrate to the ps5. Will MS do the same during the their July show? Who knows, but their exclusives better not be Xbox One games with a smart delivery logo on the screen as that will get them the same reaction as they're getting now.

if they do it wont be a game releasing any time soon as they already promised no next gen exclusives for a while. 

Yeah, that's the problem me thinks. MS usually doesn't show games that are far from release, which is kinda a good thing. Sony on the other hand does the exact opposite and will likely show full blown next gen titles like GOW2, HZD2, Spiderman 2 etc. I doubt they will be launch titles, and some of them might come out years later. But just showing glimpses of gameplay footage will seriously hurt the idea of Series X being the most powerful console when they're only showing cross gen games or cgi trailers.  



jason1637 said:
These games all look neat but nothing has wowed me as a ext gen game so far.

That's how I always feel at cross-gen time.  Eve  if the games are new gen only, they just are never massive leaps forward at launch of the new gen.