I find that consoles on launch aren't worth it, for what it offers at the time. It's only for those that can't contain themselves and must purchase it, those die hard fans, and those impulse buyers. For everyone else, if they can resist, or have no  choice, they still have a backlog of great games to catch up on, that should give them atleast another 2 years of entertainment. Those who can wait it out are usually better off. Having said that , if you wait too long, you end up with cost cutting consoles and slighter cheaper parts and redesign.

The PS3 and 360 had cheaper models, they sold poorly in comparison to the premium models.

35 million upgrading their PS4? That's absolutely ridiculous. That's 75% of the total Xbox One install base. Did 12 million Xbox owners upgrade? 

RPGs are growing as a genre and the growth over the past decade has been enormous. 

Sonys first party is stronger than its ever been in the companies history.  

Fortnite, gameplay, the switch, From software? What are you talking about? 

You may be experiencing a seizmic shift in how you perceive the industry, but that perceived change is not reflected in what matters to this discussion, the sales numbers.

They haven't revealed any games for the PS5. Their main focus will likely continue to be on story driven experiences. Playing to their strengths. 

That's no answer to my question. 

You should read back my first reply to the other guy's post. He said a $500 console. Not a $300 or less handheld. Not sure why you bring them in here. And phones are more flexible with plans. You dont have to pay a huge amount upfront like consoles (Xbox is just starting to implement that monthly plan which I think is great and will attract more customers). 

Im not here to say which one is better. Its just people dont realize what you get when you open a $1000 phone to a $500 console. The console recquires you to buy games, while a phone has everything you need without spending any more money. 

500 is lower than xbox series X price, no questions about it. Microsoft will have another cheap xbox, cheaper than ps5.

I am 100% sure it launches this year maybe in Japan and USA, and Europe early next year.

Console is low quality, confirmed.

1 - They are not too keen to show the design, obviously it will disappoint

2 - Controller still looks cheap, look at those joysticks, like a Chinese PC controller

3 - Sony always cheapens out, look at the pro against the X, pro has bad cooling, poor battery life, flimsy body not strong like the X, lower specs, no 4K BluRay 

4 - Sony hasn't mentioned cooling when they presented the specs, this means they are not proud of it when they spent half hour talking about 3d audio, its going to be yet again a noisy playstation against a quiet xbox

5 - I am always right, just like when I said its impossible for the ps5 controller to have a screen on it, due to price, and Ill be right again when I said the console can't be small like some people expect it to be as small as a ps4 slim, that's ridiculous, the heating would destroy the console quick.

And xbox has a terrible lineup of exclusives, while sony keep releasing exclusives till the very end. And my ps4 runs super quiet by the way, those that complain of nosie issues have bad ventilation, or should do what i did, clean the damm heat sink and it becomes super quiet.  Yp useem to concerned about build quality. But it's always the first console releases that have the more premium build, before they start cutting costs for later models. 

I can tell you don’t care about how the console looks, but if it does end up looking like the Series X I am pretty sure the narrative will adjust to make it seem like it’s no big deal overall when people do care. Sony is a leader, not a follower and this will register on some level.

Ill only go back into my gaming bunker if MS screws up 2013 proportions ;) I don’t see that happening anytime soon.