If the announcement of the Xbox One wasn't such a disaster this generation would have been completely different is my point, Sony wouldn't have had near the success with the PS4 it did.  And in comparison to their other products, the PS3 was a disappointment period by their standards.

Much like the PS2 and the wild success it had, Sony basically had no competition this generation for years.  It is clear from the last few generations that brand loyalty isn't as strong as many think it is.  Sony had no competition in home console gaming with the PS2, Nintendo won last generation with the Wii, Sony won the first half of this generation and Nintendo won the second half with the Switch. 

It will be very interesting to see what will happen with this generation between a system that is hitting it's peak (Switch) and last generation hardware still very capable (Xbox One X/PS4 Pro) of performing well.  I just don't see the SXS/PS5 having great launches in the current world (coronavirus and a real possibility of massive unemployment).

Yes if PS5 looks similar to XSX sure there will be discussion over it, with some using it to jab on Sony and others defending, usual day.

And your evidence that it would play completely different is? Again PS3 won against X360 having a much bigger disaster launch taking much longer to correct (first took more than half the gen to correct while the second corrected in like 10% timeframe of the gen).

Look at USA and UK, those were the only places X360 won against PS3, and this gen Xbox done well enough on those so even if the reveal was much better there is no indication that it would grant more than 10M extra sales. That wouldn't really change this gen, and we don't even know if these would mean lost sales to PS4.

But believe what you want. PS4 sales curve was basically unafected by Switch (hint they don't directly compete, same with Wii vs X360 and PS3).

I honestly couldn't understand why anyone would care about this at all. Who cares what your console looks like? All that matters is does it have games. 

What is this confidence based on?  Do you know something about the future of this pandemic that the rest of us don't?  Even the top experts don't exactly know how things are going to play out.

Do you know what is even more interesting?  There are about 3.5 billion cell phone users in the world, far more than the number of console gamers.  Why, it's almost like they are two completely different products.  Crazy, right?

Now, if you'll excuse me, my PS4 is ringing and I need to go answer it.

Average casual gamers? Sure who cares. Fans that take time out of their day to talk about video games online....they care on some level. Because everybody has a preference and wants theirs to be dominant. 

There’s always a little PSYC 101 at play with console fans. Each one wants their brand to be a leader, not a follower. Because if you represent the follower then it reduces your position when you go on gaming forums/Reddit. 

Games matter much, much more. But with a new console gen, everything is under scrutiny. 

I do not care on any level like at all. It's not even something I've thought about. Same with controllers I could understand why people care about that more but I've been gaming since I was 9 with my NES. Give me a controller, 10 mins, and I'll show you how to use it. I've gamed on almost every system ever made except for a small few and I've loved them all. I've hopped from PC to Xbox to Sony and well this gen I started making F U money so I've owned them all at some point and they were all great.

I think people who view this as a competition care cause they want something to hold over someone online. I guess when you can join and be apart of whatever team you want cause money isn't an issue you just don't care. The only loyalty I have in gaming is to gaming itself. Companies come and go in this business but gaming always sticks around.

Your sole purpose since you came back has been to spread pathetic FUD.

I like Xbox and I love nerding out talking about it and the rivalries within gaming. Say what you will about my passions but I never made any FUD threads since I got here. I just react to posts I see. I personally don’t insult anybody, unlike what you just did. I think that says something about us. Because...it’s just video games, it’s not personal. Dont like what I say, you quote me and attack the argument. Otherwise you ignore and move on. Lol relax. 

Clearly you haven’t seen me post in Xbox Empire. That’s where I have the most fun talking about news and seeing like- minded opinions. Anything else, you PM me and we talk like adults. Not here. 

That’s what I did. I said your comments are pathetic FUD. 

If you take it as me saying you are pathetic, and not the comments, that’s not my problem.

I know you weren’t talking about me as a person but the word carries weight regardless. What part of PM do you not understand? Keep the forum topic intact.