How did the PS3 sell from there on?
| trunkswd said: Read the article here. Be sure to share it. Switch vs PS4 – VGChartz Gap Charts – March 2020
Switch Vs. PS4 Global: Gap change in latest month: 1,024,151 – PS4 Gap change over last 12 months: 3,487,899 – Switch Total Lead: 4,875,794 - Switch Switch Total Sales: 53,733,752 PS4 Total Sales: 48,857,958 March 2020 is the 37th month that the Nintendo Switch has been available for. During the latest month the gap grew in favor of the PlayStation 4 by 1.02 million units when compared to the Switch during the same timeframe. In the last 12 months the Switch has outsold the PlayStation 4 by 3.49 million units. The Switch is currently ahead of the PlayStation 4 by 4.88 million units. The PlayStation 4 launched in November 2013, while the Nintendo Switch launched worldwide in March 2017. The Switch has sold 53.73 million units, while the PlayStation 4 sold 48.86 million units during the same timeframe. The 37th month on sale for the Nintendo Switch is March 2020, while for the PlayStation 4 it is November 2016. |
I believe months 37 and 38 correspond to the holidays for PS4. For a holiday month PS4 hardly gained any ground on the Switch. And they aren't going to catch up to Switch in month 38 either considering Switch is ahead by 4.9m.
Basically, this means that the "double helix" is broken. Switch sales are permanently ahead of PS4.
curl-6 bet me that PS5 + X|S sales would reach 56m before year end 2023 and he was right.
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Switch Will Be #1 All Time
Zelda Will Outsell Mario (Achieved)
How Much Will MH Rise sell?
My Bet With Metallox
| trunkswd said: Read the article here. Be sure to share it. Switch vs PS4 – VGChartz Gap Charts – March 2020
Switch Vs. PS4 Global: Gap change in latest month: 1,024,151 – PS4 Gap change over last 12 months: 3,487,899 – Switch Total Lead: 4,875,794 - Switch Switch Total Sales: 53,733,752 PS4 Total Sales: 48,857,958 March 2020 is the 37th month that the Nintendo Switch has been available for. During the latest month the gap grew in favor of the PlayStation 4 by 1.02 million units when compared to the Switch during the same timeframe. In the last 12 months the Switch has outsold the PlayStation 4 by 3.49 million units. The Switch is currently ahead of the PlayStation 4 by 4.88 million units. The PlayStation 4 launched in November 2013, while the Nintendo Switch launched worldwide in March 2017. The Switch has sold 53.73 million units, while the PlayStation 4 sold 48.86 million units during the same timeframe. The 37th month on sale for the Nintendo Switch is March 2020, while for the PlayStation 4 it is November 2016. |
So even aligned with PS4's 2016 holiday season, last month saw PS4 gain by only about a million thanks to animal crossing.
The big question now is, can Nintendo actually produce and ship enough Switches to keep it ahead? Its bottlenecked by supply atm, and probably for some time to come.
trunkswd said:
In the end it is possible the Switch will outsell the PS4. Depends on it's legs. |
It will probably depend also on how the sales in Europe and RoW will develop. In Japan Switch has already won and in the US, it's looking quite good already.
And unlike with the Wii, I don't expect a sales crunch with the Switch and more of a slow decline like the PS4 does.
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Bofferbrauer2 said:
It will probably depend also on how the sales in Europe and RoW will develop. In Japan Switch has already won and in the US, it's looking quite good already. And unlike with the Wii, I don't expect a sales crunch with the Switch and more of a slow decline like the PS4 does. |
Yeah the Wii fell victim to Nintendo trying to launch two new platforms in 2011-2012. With their studios all tied up making 3DS and Wii U games, they couldn't develop for three platforms at once so Wii support basically vanished after 2010.
If they were smart they could've softened the blow by properly localizing and advertising the Operation Rainfall trilogy and Fatal Frame 2, but instead they screwed that up royally.
Anyway, Switch shouldn't have either problem.
Bofferbrauer2 said:
It will probably depend also on how the sales in Europe and RoW will develop. In Japan Switch has already won and in the US, it's looking quite good already. And unlike with the Wii, I don't expect a sales crunch with the Switch and more of a slow decline like the PS4 does. |
Switch is going to outsell PS4. Then it is going to outsell DS and PS2. Why? Because almost every Generation 8 gamer out there is going to buy a Switch. It was going to happen anyway, but now the conditions are better than before.
First there is 3DS and Vita. These guys want the next handheld, so all of them are going to buy a Switch (and really a lot of them already have). Wii U gamers are die hard Nintendo fans. They already bought a Switch. XBox1? They've had a huge drought of games for a while now. Outside of the games that release every year the big new games for this year are Cyberpunk 2077 and Halo Infinite, and those come out near the end of the year. Their backlog for the past few years isn't terribly impressive either. XB1 gamers have mostly run out of games, and there is nothing to do right now but sit at home and play games. XB1 gamers are going to want a Switch.
That just leaves PS4. PS4 actually has a very solid line-up this year, and they have a backlog of exclusives that is a lot better than the XB1. PS4 owners will be fine this year. But after this year the focus is going to be on PS5. The reality of this pandemic is that it also comes with a huge recession/depression. Not a lot of PS5s are going to get sold for a while. Meanwhile Switch is already cheaper and Nintendo can drop the price pretty easily. That means, eventually, most PS4 owners will get a Switch. It might not be this year or next year, but eventually they will get a Switch while waiting for the PS5 price to drop to an affordable level.
In the end almost every gamer is going to get a Switch. Switch's biggest competition is neither Sony nor Microsoft. It is Netflix, Hulu and Disney+. Basically all a lot of people can do right now is sit at home and watch streaming or play games. And the only current system is the Switch. Once the pandemic ends, the economy will need time to recover so people will still buy a Switch. Demand for Switch is going to stay high for several years. It's going to become the best selling system of all time.
curl-6 bet me that PS5 + X|S sales would reach 56m before year end 2023 and he was right.
My Bet With curl-6
My Threads:
Master Thread, Game of the Year/Decade
Switch Will Be #1 All Time
Zelda Will Outsell Mario (Achieved)
How Much Will MH Rise sell?
My Bet With Metallox
The_Liquid_Laser said:
Switch is going to outsell PS4. Then it is going to outsell DS and PS2. Why? Because almost every Generation 8 gamer out there is going to buy a Switch. It was going to happen anyway, but now the conditions are better than before. First there is 3DS and Vita. These guys want the next handheld, so all of them are going to buy a Switch (and really a lot of them already have). Wii U gamers are die hard Nintendo fans. They already bought a Switch. XBox1? They've had a huge drought of games for a while now. Outside of the games that release every year the big new games for this year are Cyberpunk 2077 and Halo Infinite, and those come out near the end of the year. Their backlog for the past few years isn't terribly impressive either. XB1 gamers have mostly run out of games, and there is nothing to do right now but sit at home and play games. XB1 gamers are going to want a Switch. That just leaves PS4. PS4 actually has a very solid line-up this year, and they have a backlog of exclusives that is a lot better than the XB1. PS4 owners will be fine this year. But after this year the focus is going to be on PS5. The reality of this pandemic is that it also comes with a huge recession/depression. Not a lot of PS5s are going to get sold for a while. Meanwhile Switch is already cheaper and Nintendo can drop the price pretty easily. That means, eventually, most PS4 owners will get a Switch. It might not be this year or next year, but eventually they will get a Switch while waiting for the PS5 price to drop to an affordable level. In the end almost every gamer is going to get a Switch. Switch's biggest competition is neither Sony nor Microsoft. It is Netflix, Hulu and Disney+. Basically all a lot of people can do right now is sit at home and watch streaming or play games. And the only current system is the Switch. Once the pandemic ends, the economy will need time to recover so people will still buy a Switch. Demand for Switch is going to stay high for several years. It's going to become the best selling system of all time. |
I expect the Switch to outsell the PS4 too, but I think it will fall short of the PS2 and DS on the long run. My guess is somewhere between 130M-140M
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Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/
Just want to link this here, as it's more relevant in this thread I think:
https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9138724
The Nintendo eShop rating Thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=237454 List as Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW2hXQT1TheElVS7z-F3pP-7nbqdrDqWNTxl6JoJWBY/edit?usp=sharing
The Steam/GOG key gifting thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/242024/the-steamgog-key-gifting-thread/1/
Free Pc Games thread: https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/248138/free-pc-games/1/
| trunkswd said: Read the article here. Be sure to share it. Switch vs PS4 in the US – VGChartz Gap Charts – March 2020
Switch Vs. PS4 US: Gap change in latest month: 92,078 – PS4 Gap change over last 12 months: 1,959,026 – Switch Total Lead: 2,563,466 - Switch Switch Total Sales: 18,642,821 PS4 Total Sales: 16,079,355 In March 2020 the gap in the US between the Nintendo Switch and PlayStation 4 grew in favor of the PS4 when you align launches. The PS4 sold 92,078 more units than the Switch in the last month. However, in the last 12 months the Switch has grown its lead by 1.96 million units. The Switch currently leads by 2.56 million units. The PlayStation 4 launched in the US on November 15, 2013, while the Nintendo Switch launched on March 3, 2017. The Switch has sold 18.64 million units, while the PlayStation 4 sold 16.08 million units during the same timeframe. The 37th month on sale for the Nintendo Switch is March 2020, while for the PlayStation 4 it is November 2016. |
Only 92k units difference when comparing November vs March is a pretty impressive feat for Switch.
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| trunkswd said: Read the article here. Be sure to share it. Switch vs PS4 in the US – VGChartz Gap Charts – March 2020
Switch Vs. PS4 US: Gap change in latest month: 92,078 – PS4 Gap change over last 12 months: 1,959,026 – Switch Total Lead: 2,563,466 - Switch Switch Total Sales: 18,642,821 PS4 Total Sales: 16,079,355 In March 2020 the gap in the US between the Nintendo Switch and PlayStation 4 grew in favor of the PS4 when you align launches. The PS4 sold 92,078 more units than the Switch in the last month. However, in the last 12 months the Switch has grown its lead by 1.96 million units. The Switch currently leads by 2.56 million units. The PlayStation 4 launched in the US on November 15, 2013, while the Nintendo Switch launched on March 3, 2017. The Switch has sold 18.64 million units, while the PlayStation 4 sold 16.08 million units during the same timeframe. The 37th month on sale for the Nintendo Switch is March 2020, while for the PlayStation 4 it is November 2016. |
Truck beat me to it, but its insane that Switch almost managed to keep up with PS4's third holiday season during March.
Looking like Switch might really manage to keep a permanent lead from here on out in the US.
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