Why did you gloss over what I said about Halo? I said the grey area is child kidnapping/conscription and high risk surgery to fight humans. Which no I don’t think the general population can get behind, which is why ONI did it in secret. Which ended up being just what humanity needed when a bigger alien threat emerged. The former is morally wrong but served a greater good, that’s the nuance and grey area I’m talking about. 

No no...don’t bring in real politics into this. How dare you to even insinuate connections like that. Halos story was created in 2001 so please don’t go there. Myself and many others have a right to keep video games politically neutral. Not conservative or left leaning but neutral. Sometimes one game leans to one side over another, but I just want nuance and interpretation, not painfully obvious black and white good vs bad. 

Dp 

I agree to an extent, there is certainly more outrage these days but who are exactly outraged? Mostly people who don't even play videogames that's who, and 20 years ago videogames still had the stigma of being mostly for kids it was slowly moving away from that stigma with Playstation and Xbox entering the gaming scene but many games had to be censored for having religious or nudity content. Nowadays there is absolutely no reason to censor or change stuff when we have the internet to find out about these changes and call the localisers or developers out on their bullshit.

They're just asking for critique from their fans because publishers/localisers prefer to listen to the loud pc audience who, again, doesn't even buy their games in the first place!

Comic books have been niche for a very long time and is now slowly dying even more because of the woke writers. Videogames industry makes even more money than Hollywood and has been very difficult to control and spread woke messages but it's slowly starting now.

Yes, it's starting with the Western gaming industry, after some time the Japanese gaming industry will have to adapt and bow down to the bullshit of western social politics if they want to survive in this market.

Sorry but that is just too weak of a reason for outright censoring the whole scene just because some felt offended by fictional homosexual characters.

Why would i or anyone believe all gays behave like sexual predator pedophiles? Not even 4 year olds these days believe that. This is what i mean by western social politics you can't even make jokes anymore meanwhile Japan gets away with it because they can distinguish fiction from reality.

Agreed 

Tokyo Mirage Sessions? DMC V? Fire Emblem Fates? Persona 5 Royal? Senran Kagura?

I'll admit that thicc Poison Ivy looks good because i like thicc women in general but i know that's not exactly the WOKE message that edited image is trying to give LOL

I can't wait for MK 12 to bomb whenever it releases if it's another MK 11.

Thank you!

I don't see how that's at all relevant to what I said, but "thanks" for the preaching, I suppose. Also, like I said, I don't generally mind it, so if it affects Japanese games, I don't generally care.

Well, what do you want me to say? Congratulations?

First you say it's troubling but you generally don't care for it, then you say only if History gets changed then you do care... Oh! and also remakes and stuff BUT you generally don't care it... Okay?

I for one do care, cause i invested lots of time and money in videogame franchises that i liked and those are now slowly being manipulated by an audience who doesn't care for these games in the first place.

An individual doesn't cease to be a democrat when they create something without a political intent. That individual is still a democrat, creating as such and their political views and worldview influence their creation whether they intend to make a political statement or not. These ways are often subtle and nuanced, which makes me feel as if you have created a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy, where you bravely proclaim "Bad art is bad when it is bad".

Like, wow. Let that brave conclusion sink in for a second.

Sure, art which is badly written is badly written. I accept that. But was it badly written because it was written by a democrat? I mean, clearly not. You have already acknowledged that Democrats can make great art. So then, what is the purpose here? A condemnation of all political art, because some of it is bad? That seems incredibly reductive. Even moreso if you only apply that to democrats. There is no metric in which you can truly make that conclusion, especially when most artists are liberal.

That leaves me largely back where I started. You don't like certain things which challenge your personal worldview, and as such, a bias is created and reinforced which leads you to make incredibly questionable statements such as:

"Creatively I don’t believe a democrat is on the same level as someone politically neutral or conservative."

"No way a Democrat can write a premise like these, as I said they make things painfully obvious black and white"

Not only do these statements reflect massive biases and assumptions in your worldview, but they also demonstrate how the goalposts are silently shifting as you are challenged. First you state that a democrat can't write a premise like this, but then you shift to say that, sure, a democrat can write a premise like this, but only when they aren't actively democrat-ing, whatever that would entail. Fact is, democrats can often write nuance, which shouldn't be a surprise, because someone's political leaning's doesn't determine how good of an artist they are.

See that’s my point. You have a specific interpretation and that’s the beauty of it. I see what happened as wrong too but saved millions in civilian casualties. It’s not black and white and everybody has their own unique opinion on it. You aren’t wrong in your assessment but neither am I. 

If you don't have anything relevant to say, maybe don't say anything?

Yes, it's troubling, but so far, it hasn't been much of an issue. It's as simple as that. To elaborate just a bit, I think things are pretty good right now, with potential to get worse.

There is a loud minority that has definitely played a couple of games but whether they appreciate these games for what they are, artistically, or hate it for what is isn't is the real question.

In most PC- cases they hate the game for what it isn't and want everybody else to change the game to align it more to their PC believes or else everybody else is a racist homophobe, MK 11 is a clear example of that and that's my problem with Western entertainment these days.

and to answer your last question no they're not creative, they just change what's already there to their own political believes and forces everybody else to like it.

Agreed !!!

1. Yes, but why is that political or groundbreaking? Disney made princess movies back in the 1930's 40's and 50's and nobody remembers those movies just for having female leading roles but because of the beautiful art and memorable stories, songs and characters. 

2. Miyazaki is great but he also criticized the anime industry. Not because modern anime aren't political but because they don't realistically depict real people instead the same anime tropes that get tiresome and with lots of recycled art that makes all anime look the same. Walt Disney used to be great and even influenced manga, but it had nothing to do with their movies being political, they just made good artsy movies.

What i'm trying to say is not everything has to be political especially not nowadays where "outsiders" decide what's okay and what's not okay for developers to create in their videogames. If it can be done in a good way like you said in your previous post then yeah, but why don't go ahead and make something new? Why change something that's already an established franchise for a minority that never cared for it.

So, you replied just to explain that you know it's a problem, but you don't care for it, but you actually do care, but really you don't.

OK.