If, and that's a big IF, the machines were flipping votes, Trump wants to keep that quiet until the counts are close to finished.

Trump also thinks the Dems are/were stuffing ballots on the go while counting, but there's little hard evidence out there currently.

If this were true, the last thing Trump wants is for the Dems to know, that he knows, Trump has more votes than they think he does. 

It's possible the Dems knew the machines were tampered with, or maybe they have no idea and it was simply the private company themselves.

Either way, once the counts are basically finished, along with recounts and any further tossed votes, if Trumps lawyers can prove the machines flipped votes and didn't count some towards his total, it would be next to impossible for Dems to keep stuffing ballots to win after the fact.

That would be the thought process, IF any of it were proven to be true, which there's next to no solid evidence out there at this time. There's a bunch of stuff being thrown around right now and nobody knows exactly what's going on because some media is saying one thing while the other is saying the opposite, while some 'leaked' info seems to be going mostly unreported.

Could all be just for show. Hard evidence is needed if the public was going to truly believe any of it, and even then, this would be one heck of a hard sell.

Lol, you give President Trump way to much credit.  As if he had this smoking gun he needs to wait until all votes are counted.  Not even sure I understand where you are going with this.  Why would he need to wait, he already lost those states. I do agree with you that there is a lot of stuff flying around and I am sure the President is looking to see which one sticks like he always does before jumping on the bandwagon.  The easy part of misinformation is that you really do not need to prove anything, you only need to let it run and let people own bias prove it within their minds.  Since he already has his base believing their is fraud without a shred of evidence, he can continue to let these rumors, leaks, lies and misinformation roll.  

My opinion on the President strategy is that he really doesn't care about fraud or anything along those lines.  Instead he wants to build a narrative that he did not lose.  His whole ego is centered around that he cannot be a one term impeached president which kills his world view of himself so he is going to muddy the waters as much as possible so when he does leave the White House, he can continue to claim he won and won by a huge margin and the Dems fixed the election.

Apparently the flipped or disregarded votes give Trump enough states to have over 270 electoral votes. Apparently. Some of those states would end up close enough that if the Dems were stuffing ballots, they could potentially keep tallying votes and overcome the margin if they knew the true vote totals before they finished.

I'm not giving anyone credit. Just pointing out why certain things would likely be kept more quiet. Trump did wait over a week after the election to tweet out the apparent Pennsylvania numbers, but only those, because they are so large nothing could be done to change that race and he would definitely win the state. The voting machine flipped votes for Arizona are apparently 5,000 ish. Meaning Biden would lose 5,000 and Trump would gain 5,000, basically making the state vote an equal tie right now if the count was finalized.

You could certainly be correct. I think it's totally possible Trump could just be trying to justify the loss to keep his image. It may even have to do with his or his family's political future. Lots of possibilities. Just need more time and evidence, or lack thereof, to know what's undeniably true or false.

The article seems like pretty obvious misinformation to me.  When they talk about how fraud is obvious to any rational person and the fake news media is burying all the information... that’s not even an attempt at objective reporting.  It’s basic propaganda and just more misinformation to throw in the pile of misinformation conservatives throw at each other... they have to make sure they all stay misinformed right?  

I wish the gop would go back to who they were before trump.  When they championed their ideas and policies rather then running from them.  They run on misinformation both about what they want to do and what their opposition wants to do... it’s just sad...

No voting machines are connected to a WAN in the united states. What they do is after counting the votes they upload it to a server with reporting software where this company comes into play. By the way all servers used by that company in the USA is hosted in USA. The reporting software allow them to release the counts to public quickly but it does NOT count votes. Therefore it cant change votes and if it reported the wrong count it would be quickly caught and fixed since it not the primary source of the count. Someone entered it into the system but it not where the official counts are stored for certification and auditing.

This just another conspiracy that going to be thrown around on the far right to try to convince people Biden did not win but there will never be any evidence that anyone will be actually able to bring to a judge in USA and in the end Biden will still be president on January 20th.

A US military operation in an allied European country seems....doubtful. If there truly was meddling in a foreign country, typically we would place an extradition request, especially given the fact that we have an extradition treaty with Germany. The German police would then be the ones who would handle arrests.

And who's the commander in chief of the armed forces?

Donald Trump.

DONALD TRUMP IS THE ONLY MAN BRILLIANT ENOUGH TO DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP!

This is why I like Bill Maher. He just gets it. People like him are the ones that make me think there is still hope. 

He's right and all, but he's still talking into an echo chamber. Nothing stupid the Democrat party or the left wing extremists do change the fact that you still have to vote against Republicans. When pointing out flaws in the left it is very important that we provide context and do not fall into the same bullshit the right does, false equivalence. Yes, SJWs and cancel culture are annoying and harmful, but at least they don't want to literally kill and torture people like the right.

This leads to a terrible predicament. Because voting left will only embolden and empowering the leftist extremists because moderates are too scared to speak up against them. By choosing the left we may be inviting a different kind of evil but we will have to put that aside first and deal with it later. People who struggle to survive right now won't have the willpower to fight against leftist oppression, so we'll have to tackle the most urgent problems first while knowingly also letting the leftist extremists become stronger. We can only hope that we'll be able to control them later on.

Going against leftist extremism right now when we are still fighting rightwing extremism will only hurt in the long run. If we had defeated right wing extremism sooner we might've even prevented their uprising as well.

Yeah the extreme left that want Universal Healthcare (hugely popular), free higher education, $15 minimum wage, The Green New Deal, Higher taxes on the Rich and Wall Street, Prevention of further wars, Defund the police (reallocation away from military grade weapons to community services), etc.. things Bill Maher has railed against to keep the status quo, real in touch with the people.. yeah those extremist that just want a fair go :/

Those exteme lefties (Progressives) went the full mile to get Biden over the line, they really put in the yards and came out in force, if Biden goes status quo, 2024 will be a shite storm, never forget who had the most individual donations and money on hand, who had the most enthusiasm in the primaries, who appealed the most to the next generation