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How do you feel

My brain become bigger su... 21 30.00%
 
I am wet 6 8.57%
 
What did he talked about??? 5 7.14%
 
I want some more info 9 12.86%
 
Total:41

The most insignificant detail about the video that I noticed and would like to comment on:

Cerny had a Vaio machine in front of him even though Sony sold the brand a while ago. Why?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1gWECYYOSo

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Signalstar said:
The most insignificant detail about the video that I noticed and would like to comment on:

Cerny had a Vaio machine in front of him even though Sony sold the brand a while ago. Why?

I thought the same think, for me Vaio wasn't even manufactured anymore. Perhaps they bought back and haven't revealed yet?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
KLXVER said:

Well then I hope most other gamers are way smarter than me. This presentation could have been spoken in Klingon and I would be just as informed as I am now.

Very disappointed by the small amount of BC PS4 titles though. Was hoping it would be fully BC with all PS4 games at least...

They put the BC on the silicon of PS5. They confirmed the top 100 played games run fine, but almost all BC have odd cases where it won't work so Sony is still testing case by case to confirm. But don't worry as probably all relevant games will run.

Just wanted the PS5 to replace my PS4, but seems like that wont happen for a while. Sony used to be so great when it comes to BC. But I guess it does eat into a companies profit if they can just sell them again on their service.



KLXVER said:
DonFerrari said:

They put the BC on the silicon of PS5. They confirmed the top 100 played games run fine, but almost all BC have odd cases where it won't work so Sony is still testing case by case to confirm. But don't worry as probably all relevant games will run.

Just wanted the PS5 to replace my PS4, but seems like that wont happen for a while. Sony used to be so great when it comes to BC. But I guess it does eat into a companies profit if they can just sell them again on their service.

Well that is true, the number will rise until release of the console, but I don't know what games you are expecting to play so I wouldn't plan on counting PS5 fully compatible for you.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Signalstar said:
The most insignificant detail about the video that I noticed and would like to comment on:

Cerny had a Vaio machine in front of him even though Sony sold the brand a while ago. Why?

Vaio business laptops are absolutely decked out in terms of inputs and outputs. And they are super light.

DonFerrari said:
Signalstar said:
The most insignificant detail about the video that I noticed and would like to comment on:

Cerny had a Vaio machine in front of him even though Sony sold the brand a while ago. Why?

I thought the same think, for me Vaio wasn't even manufactured anymore. Perhaps they bought back and haven't revealed yet?

They never went away. Just became it's own company



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HollyGamer said:
DonFerrari said:

Sony reveal wasn't as good as some expected and had the openings other were waiting to trash Sony =p

Actually it's a good shows  my brain got even bigger listening and got lecture from Mark Cerny 

 

I would bet this event was tweeted and presented as it was on purpose.

SNY has a general idea of XBSX paper specs, which may be higher. They wait to reveal right after the XBSX reveal, and XBSX specs will look better.

What do you do?

You dress up Cerny like a scholar, have him talk like a rocket scientist, and explain he created a game console. Many won't understand, but will see a genius and will buy a PS5 because of it.

Mind you, the games obviously have to follow or it's all for nothing.



DonFerrari said:
KLXVER said:

Just wanted the PS5 to replace my PS4, but seems like that wont happen for a while. Sony used to be so great when it comes to BC. But I guess it does eat into a companies profit if they can just sell them again on their service.

Well that is true, the number will rise until release of the console, but I don't know what games you are expecting to play so I wouldn't plan on counting PS5 fully compatible for you.

100 is not great if they are focusing on the most played ones. That would be like many CODs, Battlefields, Fifas, Maddens etc. Games that have an online component to them. I don't know. Its not the end of the world. Would just be a nice bonus if it was fully BC.



Well, here we are. 6 years after my prediction. I was going for 12-14 teraflops of the old architecture. Well, It´s 10, but performance wise, a 8 TF 5700 is faster than a near 13 Teraflops VEGA 64. In that sense, even though the Xbox is faster, the PS5 achieved a little more than what I thought with a 10 TF RDNA2 GPU
kind of sad that we have only 16 GB of RAM, but understanding memory as a hole, That 16 GB can be filled much much faster than before with that amazing I/O subsistem. So those 16 will behave like we have more RAM.
3D sound is a nice upgrade too.
And jumping from a jaguar core to a Zen 2 3.5 Ghz core, well, it´s almost the same as the xbox CPU.
So Sony established a base from which it can grow.
They have the CPU, The sound, and the I/O for the future. Replacing only the GPU side, with a wider one, they can make a PS5 pro easily. And they can sell the PS5 now for less than the xbox if they want to.
So despite the xbox is 15-20% faster gpu wise, I think the ps5 is good enough to compete being the games what´s more important. Microsoft is still showing minecraft and they always have the same halo, gears, forza thing. They need to get more creative. The senua game looks awesome but the gameplay of the 1st is not that great despite great art and design. They designed a better machine than I thought they would in 2014.
I recognize that I would have prefered a faster GPU than what Microsoft has, but it´s not bad at all for 4k console gaming.

Edit: Oh I forgot. what I don´t like is an SSD with only 825 GB of storage. I mean, how many 150 GB games can we put there? 5 and the machine is full. Hate that.  



KLXVER said:
DonFerrari said:

Well that is true, the number will rise until release of the console, but I don't know what games you are expecting to play so I wouldn't plan on counting PS5 fully compatible for you.

100 is not great if they are focusing on the most played ones. That would be like many CODs, Battlefields, Fifas, Maddens etc. Games that have an online component to them. I don't know. Its not the end of the world. Would just be a nice bonus if it was fully BC.

Presumably they'd have the common sense to only focus on FIFA 20, and skip 19, 18, 17, 16, and 15, which hardly anyone would play anymore.



CrazyGPU said:

Well, here we are. 6 years after my prediction. I was going for 12-14 teraflops of the old architecture. Well, It´s 10, but performance wise, a 8 TF 5700 is faster than a near 13 Teraflops VEGA 64. In that sense, even though the Xbox is faster, the PS5 achieved a little more than what I thought with a 10 TF RDNA2 GPU
kind of sad that we have only 16 GB of RAM, but understanding memory as a hole, That 16 GB can be filled much much faster than before with that amazing I/O subsistem. So those 16 will behave like we have more RAM.
3D sound is a nice upgrade too.
And jumping from a jaguar core to a Zen 2 3.5 Ghz core, well, it´s almost the same as the xbox CPU.
So Sony established a base from which it can grow.
They have the CPU, The sound, and the I/O for the future. Replacing only the GPU side, with a wider one, they can make a PS5 pro easily. And they can sell the PS5 now for less than the xbox if they want to.
So despite the xbox is 15-20% faster gpu wise, I think the ps5 is good enough to compete being the games what´s more important. Microsoft is still showing minecraft and they always have the same halo, gears, forza thing. They need to get more creative. The senua game looks awesome but the gameplay of the 1st is not that great despite great art and design. They designed a better machine than I thought they would in 2014.
I recognize that I would have prefered a faster GPU than what Microsoft has, but it´s not bad at all for 4k console gaming.

Edit: Oh I forgot. what I don´t like is an SSD with only 825 GB of storage. I mean, how many 150 GB games can we put there? 5 and the machine is full. Hate that.  

Thanks to the instant seek time of these SSDs, games will not be that big. Do you see those 150GB type games? most of those adjust assets duplicated on the HDD to allow quicker access and ultimately faster reads.

Furthermore, these next-gen consoles are using pretty impressive compression tech, so the actual game sizes can be smaller.

But uh, sub 1TB SSD sucks though. Its even suckier is that unless sony actually releases some branded SSDs, we won't be able to buy compatible SSDs for it till sometime next year because what's on the market now isn't as fast. Samsung would probably have a 7GB/s SSD though, but that would probably cost as much as the PS5.