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twintail said:
Azzanation said:

Since when did Death Stranding and UC4 win GOTY?

The Game Awards say otherwise.

I didn't realise a marketing event became the authority on game quality.

I didn't realize unknown gaming awards were considered legit.

If thats the case than i can pull out tons of games which take away 1 award here and there per year, so we have multiple GOTYs? What a complete mess up.



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victor83fernandes said:
sales2099 said:

In many ways a PC gamer and console gamer are two different groups. Millions from either side wouldn’t touch the other just because it isn’t their style. Most know that a console is convenient and hundreds cheaper then investing in a gaming rig. 

If Xbox’s exclusives didn’t go to Pc you’d see a few million bump nothing more. MCC on PC sold somewhere from 2-3 million. Better to capitalize on those who aren’t willing to come over to your side. I’m just glad Sony is starting a slow yet slippery slope where their console isn’t the sole destination for their games. To me, their principles are slowly eroding. 

That's is not correct, gamers are gamers, period, its 2020 no one is scared of PCs anymore they've become much easier to build. I was on PC until 2006 when I emigrated for work purposes, at the end of this year I'll permanently return home now that I finished paying my house. Just saving for a car.

Ill have a choice as a gamer, build a powerful PC which can replace my MacBook so basically that would cost me nothing as the MacBook is worth a lot of money.

Or buy a PS5 or series X depending on design, power, launch games. Price, With the advantage I already have a pro controller that works on PC.

I'd love a GT7, horizon 2, spiderman 2 etc, but on PC I could play enhanced games from several generations + emulators to improve my switch/wiiU graphics. And several games at very cheap prices. And free online.

Also console games take many years to drop in price back in Portugal, not like here in the UK where I can get a game 50% off after only 6 months. Back in Portugal I've seen PS4 games from 5 years ago still at 70euros (around 80dollars), GTA5 as an example.

The new consoles will be 500 + 130 for a couple games + 150 for a proper controller if my pro controller is not compatible + 50 for online = 830 dollars

PC parts will be better, cheaper and more power efficient come January, I could build a monster gaming PC for 830 dollars which would save me money long term on games and free online and I could go back and play older games like Mass effect trilogy in very high quality graphics.

The biggest deciding factor will be fan noise, this generation I went through 4 PS4s, the launch one was loud, then the destiny model was acceptable, then I got the pro was super loud, then I finally got the 3rd revision with Spiderman, its acceptable.

The xbox X is wonderfully silent, but I doubt the next gen consoles will have the budget for that cooling. On consoles you are stuck to whatever cooling they give you. Most people didn't complain on ps4 so I'm sure they will cheap out on that. I usually do not mind if the fan can not be heard over the headphones.

On PC I get to choose the cooling, thats a huge advantage.

Sony bringing exclusives to the PC is just one more reason to abandon consoles.

Sorry, “gamers are gamers” doesn’t fly. Because that assumes people are the same and don’t have unique preferences. Ever consider millions don’t want to build a PC? That couch gaming is more social or that playing on your living room tv is preferable then being 2 feet away from your Pc monitor? That consoles are always going to be cheaper and more convenient? 

Just a few examples of why one wouldn’t touch the other, and I’m sure there’s plenty examples that go for Pc gamers 



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Azzanation said:
twintail said:

I didn't realise a marketing event became the authority on game quality.

I didn't realize unknown gaming awards were considered legit.

If thats the case than i can pull out tons of games which take away 1 award here and there per year, so we have multiple GOTYs? What a complete mess up.

I never suggested they were.



This thread is wild



I don’t know, man. First party console games should stick to their respective console. If I wanna play Sony games I buy a PS4. HZD was made with that console in mind.

What if Nintendo games release on PC. Oh the horror.

I think exclusivity will die this generation and Microsoft started it :(



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Azzanation said:
victor83fernandes said:

Wrong, playstation is destined to succeed no matter what, PS1, ps2, ps3 and ps4 were huge successes. The brand name alone guarantees it, even more next gen because its backwards compatible.

SIP

This guy..

As Pemalite mentioned, remember the Vita?

If the PS5 came out with similar anti-consumer practices and bad PR, expect the same results as to what happened to the XB1 launch. PS2 super successful sales did not stop the 360 from taking away Sony's market share.

src said:

Larger userbase as in more PS hardware sales.PS has no game selling platform on PC. Removing exclusives will do nothing but reduce hardware sales. It is nonsensical to say removing exclusives somehow leads to more people buying PS5 lol

All those consoles you mention were either unattractive hardware or had little third party support. Neither of these things has ever applied to Playstation so its a silly analogy. 

Adding more options for gamers to play there games increases overall profits, you don't need hardware to be successful, ever heard of Steam? 

Yes I just proved your point wrong as I mentioned consoles that had better 1st party exclusives yet undersold compared to the competition. People talk up FF7 on PS1 and how well it did yet it wasn't exclusive, it was also available on PC and wasn't made or owned by the platform holder. This is a familiar scene today.

If 1st party exclusives is everything than Nintendo would have dominated the PS1 and PS2 era as Sony's 1st party exclusives weren't even on par. Yes 3rd party is where its at and its exactly what Xbox focuses on, just as much as PS. So competition will eat into the success of the PS4 userbase if Sony isn't careful with there marketing and same can be said for the others as well.

I will say you need a good mixture of everything plus good marketing helps. Look at both the PS2 and PS4, they were era's where Sony's direct competitors both slipped up with the Gamecube and Dreamcast and the XB1 and WiiU. While we are on brand power, the PS3 almost sent Sony bankrupt as well becoming worst console to lose billions overtaking the OG Xbox. The time PS had healthy competition there console struggled to sell majorly and need heavy face lifts to get back in the game.

Yeah.. The Vita argument doesn't fly.  Or maybe you think that Apple, for example, has a worthless brand because they have launched multiple failed products in their time? The Playstation brand is built on the home consoles and that has not diminished one bit because of what the Vita did or didn't do. Handhelds are a different beast and that's way their brand didn't work in the other direction. Sony took a stab at it but never ventured far from their bread and butter.

But you're right in that the best thing is to have a good mixture. Sony has that covered and it is also a part of their brand, which explains their continued success. Their biggest problem has been getting in their own way sometimes with questionable decisions.



If they did this with all their games I’d probably skip on PS5 hardware. I only have my PS4 for Sony games and even those I rarely finish.



Stellar_Fungk said:
I don’t know, man. First party console games should stick to their respective console. If I wanna play Sony games I buy a PS4. HZD was made with that console in mind.

What if Nintendo games release on PC. Oh the horror.

I think exclusivity will die this generation and Microsoft started it :(

Games being locked behind one platform limits choices. HZD was made for PS4 in mind, but that only hurt the game since they had to make it for a weak system. With it on PC we can finally play it at 60fps. 

Also Sega technically did PC ports first for console manufacturers. In the 90s they ported their Genesis and Saturn games to PC.



Good for everyone. Certainly the most wanted PS4 game for me that I could not play so far. Hopefully we'll see TLOU2 as well.

I bought a PS4 and Pro this gen but I got almost nothing out of it because at some point I developed standards.



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victor83fernandes said:
0D0 said:

In the terribly remote case Sony stops selling consoles, I would have to stop gaming. I don't see myself buying a gaming PC. Hopefully Sega will bring back their console business and Sony would be able to release their games on Sega. How wonderful would that be?

Why? PC is just a console with a lot more customization. If you look at the series X you are basically looking at a PC, no more no less. You can get almost any wireless controller to work on PC, my dualshock works, xbox one controller works, xbox elite works, ps4 pro controllers works, etc And then you get keyboard and mouse for strategy/management games.

I cant see how someone thinks this is bad. People need a computer anyway to organize their media and do some work.

Free online, cheaper games, backwards compatible with games from decades ago, you have more than 20x the amount of games that the ps5 would have.

Sega will never be back to console, because no one would buy one, who in their own mind would invest money into a sega when Sony and Microsoft have the console market on lockdown? A sega would just be another google stadia.

Of course Sega wouldn't. No need to reply that.

Now, I have a Mac laptop, I browse and I do some work. Can I run current gen games on it? - No.



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