Yupp.... either that or a 500$ machine with a massive loss/unit sold. IMO MS could easily go the 600/400 high-end/low-end approach, and I guess most people would be fine with that.

For one game. This is a multi-game resume, and we have yet to see what that truly means or how many games will it actually support. 

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Lol not sure if you are being serious. Every web page does this! Every game this generation since the 'refresh' consoles came out does this. "Smart delivery" was there before the One X and ps4 pro launched. Don't wait, you'll get the upgrades automatically! Cross-buy (the old term) was there last gen as well. But it's smart delivery re-packaging old features and selling them as new.

You underrate how people think about price. Few people will be fine with prices over $400. As for the price that's coming, I expect $499 at a moderate loss vs a ps5 at the same price with a small loss.

It's a bad price regardless but wheter they sell out depends on stock x demand. There will always be some diehard fans who get the console within a few weeks. After that a console has to win the mass market.

I don't pay for a console at a higher price than 399€.

Not many would be content with a $400 next gen console that costs $400 to manufacture either. While it's not asking too much for MS and PS to subsidize the price a little, knowing the XBSX specs so far, and what's likely to follow for what we don't have detailed info for, you're looking at something closer to $600 to manufacture, maybe more. Expecting them to take a loss of around $200 per unit is asking a lot. $499 would be a worthy middle ground, where both sides would 'suffer' a little earlier on, but within a year or two max, should be down to $399 where 'everyone' wins again.

As long as both are $499 like you're suggesting, even one being higher yet, it won't be seen as negatively as it would otherwise by people. 

Disagree completely.

Who the hell said that? Certainly not me. I already said I expect a $499 price tag on both ps5 and xsx. With ps5 at a small loss (up to $25) and xsx at a moderate/somewhat big loss (up to $75). And I also said that the mass market won't like that price.

I said that, and I'm just making a point in general, based off of your point.

What I'm saying is people won't be really happy unless PS and MS go out of their way to heavily subsidize the hardware, which would be asking a lot of them. They won't be super happy with a $499 price, but they also wouldn't be happy if the consoles were $399 but were only worth $399 period. You wouldn't be getting all that much more than an XB1X in that case, and who wants that for a next gen console late 2020?

The only part where I slightly disagree is the price, where as I think if both are $499, or one being even more than that, people won't be as negative as they would otherwise. That's not to say they will happily accept it all of the sudden, but they won't be as upset. Now if both consoles are over $499, then people will be angry regardless.