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Conina said:
Azzanation said:

Convo ended on page 6.

Pretty useless metric in a forum where users have free choice of forum posts per page.

Oh by all means, keep going, I am just saying the convo finished on page 6. I wont be replying anymore or reading any more in this thread. So if you plan on replying to me, don't waste your time.



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Azzanation said:
Conina said:

Pretty useless metric in a forum where users have free choice of forum posts per page.

Oh by all means, keep going, I am just saying the convo finished on page 6. I wont be replying anymore or reading any more in this thread. So if you plan on replying to me, don't waste your time.

And I'm just saying that we haven't even reached page 4 yet from my perspective:

And users with 50 or 100 posts per page are probably still on page 2 or 1.



Conina said:
Azzanation said:

Oh by all means, keep going, I am just saying the convo finished on page 6. I wont be replying anymore or reading any more in this thread. So if you plan on replying to me, don't waste your time.

And I'm just saying that we haven't even reached page 4 yet from my perspective:

And users with 50 or 100 posts per page are probably still on page 2 or 1.

Yep. Still on page 1 on 100 posts per page. 



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couchmonkey said:
Tifabestwaifu said:

Never see so much denial in one humain being lol.

Ignoring for a second that someone further up the thread already proved this was a misquote, I would argue it is the correct type of answer for a president to give.  When the interviewer for a big magazine says, “Why you fail so Hard?” You reply by insulting your competition and declaring a better day ahead.  The worst answer would be an honest analysis that makes you, your company, and your consumer product look weak.

the only problem I see with the quote (real or fake version) is possibly that it insults gamers as well as JRPGs/Sony games.

Considering it probably alienated a lot of Japanese gamers, I'd say it was the worst possible answer he could have given. Taking ownership of your shortcomings as well as the steps you're taking to correct those shortcomings would have been more appropriate. 

Nintendo's PR in the N64 era was pure cringe, coming from both NoJ and NoA.

Last edited by SanAndreasX - on 07 February 2020

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Azzanation said:
Conina said:

Keeep in mind that over 900 million PS1 games were sold and that only 225 million N64 games were sold.

Yeah, the piracy issue really hurt the PS1 developers.

DonFerrari said:

Publishers declared bankrupcy on PS1 and just developed for N64 on parallel reality.

Convo ended on page 6.

Great, will consider that you admit you were just totally wrong on all of it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

SanAndreasX said:
couchmonkey said:

Ignoring for a second that someone further up the thread already proved this was a misquote, I would argue it is the correct type of answer for a president to give.  When the interviewer for a big magazine says, “Why you fail so Hard?” You reply by insulting your competition and declaring a better day ahead.  The worst answer would be an honest analysis that makes you, your company, and your consumer product look weak.

the only problem I see with the quote (real or fake version) is possibly that it insults gamers as well as JRPGs/Sony games.

Considering it probably alienated a lot of Japanese gamers, I'd say it was the worst possible answer he could have given. Taking ownership of your shortcomings as well as the steps you're taking to correct those shortcomings would have been more appropriate. 

Nintendo's PR in the N64 era was pure cringe, coming from both NoJ and NoA.

Yep, not recognizing your shortcomings is the perfect recipe to not solve the issues.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Azzanation said:
BraLoD said:

Are you seriously asking if the N64 lost for the PS1?

Then you proceed to give the PS1 successful life cycle as an excuse because the 64 died a lot faster? lol

Never change.

Is this some kind of play school where we have to have a winner and loser? what if Nintendo's N64 sales target was 20m consoles sold? Do you know what there target was? Does something have to lose? How does two successful products win and lose?

Not sure how long you been around gaming however ill help you out and say Nintendo are well known for mid life spans. They move on quicker to there next platform compared to Sony who likes to keep platforms on the market for 10+ years. Thats by company choice, it can depend when they decide to shift focus for there next product.

N64 was far from a flop which means it'ssuccessful, its just Sony opened up the doors for more gamers and sold incredibly well. No one knew, probably not even Nintendo or Sony knew how big the audience was back than.

Gamecube to PS2 is a different story, Gamecube failed to meet expectations so thats where i will agree on.

You have nothing you can help me out with.

Aside from your goal moving in your reply, we don't need to pick a winner and a loser, it's just how it is, and the N64 was beaten hard by the PS1, to a point it's not even fun.

I'm not implying anything with that, it's just a fact, the problem is your absurd questioning and reasoning to pretend it didn't happen.

You may like the N64 more, Nintendo can be happy with how it peformed, and it might have made them money... nothing has anything to do with it losing to the PS1, and it did, in every single possible way. And that's it.

You had improved some time ago but seems like with a new gen coming you are going back to how you were originally.

Keep on downplaying Playstation, it won't change anything, just make you look bad.



Conina said:

And I'm just saying that we haven't even reached page 4 yet from my perspective:And users with 50 or 100 posts per page are probably still on page 2 or 1.

I will only reply to your post as an exception due to not understanding my reply. Read my last post to Barkley (For me its on Page 6) I ended the convo and withdraw my statements. No point going on about it. I admit when I am wrong and I have done so. I know what you are thinking, its a rarity for me to be wrong but no one is perfect ;) I misunderstood the sales on the N64 and assumed it was higher than 32m so my argument has been withdrawn.

Have a good day sir.



to be fair playing JRPGs really is depressing.

i mean you get to see what gamers consider "good writing"