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Who will win by 2030?

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RolStoppable said:
Alistair said:

I am on fire today. Take a look at the front page of this website:

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/442227/switch-vs-3ds-in-japanvgchartz-gap-chartsdecember-2019/

Switch can't even match the 3DS never mind the DS in Japan, and Japan is Switch's top market. 3DS plus Wii U outsold the Switch. That is a fail. Leaving a market and conceding defeat is not a sign of strength. The Switch is universally hated by Nintendo home console lovers. It is selling to the old market, the same people who bought their mobile hardware (which I've never bought).

Also, if you want to know how much you should actually be paying for a Switch home console, look at the new version of the nVidia shield. It is selling for $130 at the store near my home. The new model. So considering nVidia's profit margins are much higher than Nintendo's, I'm sure Nintendo can sell a home console version of the Switch for $130 also. But they shouldn't. They should make it 3x faster first and make it $199 instead.

You have my vote for Greatest User as well.

The truth hurts.



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Alistair said:

I am on fire today. Take a look at the front page of this website:

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/442227/switch-vs-3ds-in-japanvgchartz-gap-chartsdecember-2019/

Switch can't even match the 3DS never mind the DS in Japan, and Japan is Switch's top market. 3DS plus Wii U outsold the Switch. That is a fail. Leaving a market and conceding defeat is not a sign of strength. The Switch is universally hated by Nintendo home console lovers. It is selling to the old market, the same people who bought their mobile hardware (which I've never bought).

Also, if you want to know how much you should actually be paying for a Switch home console, look at the new version of the nVidia shield. It is selling for $130 at the store near my home. The new model. So considering nVidia's profit margins are much higher than Nintendo's, I'm sure Nintendo can sell a home console version of the Switch for $130 also. But they shouldn't. They should make it 3x faster first and make it $199 instead.

Switch might not beat the 3DS in Japan, but it is beating the PS4 worldwide. Well, that must be enough, the beast 3DS is too strong.

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/442121/switch-vs-ps4vgchartz-gap-chartsdecember-2019/



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Alistair said:
RolStoppable said:

You have my vote for Greatest User as well.

The truth hurts.

It's not so much the truth as it is my belly that hurts because I can't stop laughing.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Shipments

Alistair said:

I am on fire today. Take a look at the front page of this website:

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/442227/switch-vs-3ds-in-japanvgchartz-gap-chartsdecember-2019/

Switch can't even match the 3DS never mind the DS in Japan, and Japan is Switch's top market. 3DS plus Wii U outsold the Switch. That is a fail. Leaving a market and conceding defeat is not a sign of strength. The Switch is universally hated by Nintendo home console lovers. It is selling to the old market, the same people who bought their mobile hardware (which I've never bought).

Also, if you want to know how much you should actually be paying for a Switch home console, look at the new version of the nVidia shield. It is selling for $130 at the store near my home. The new model. So considering nVidia's profit margins are much higher than Nintendo's, I'm sure Nintendo can sell a home console version of the Switch for $130 also. But they shouldn't. They should make it 3x faster first and make it $199 instead.

I don't feel happy paying $300 to buy a $130 home console, and having PS3 graphics in 2020. With no controller included (and let's not call the joycon grip a controller, that is marketing, not a controller).

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Imo, the unified strategy is working for Nintendo.



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3DS is the third best selling platform in Japan in total :? saying a platform isn't going to match it is not saying much at all because getting close to it is still demolishing the competition currently around you can't concede defeat when you're destroying the only competition around.



Wyrdness said:

3DS is the third best selling platform in Japan in total :? saying a platform isn't going to match it is not saying much at all because getting close to it is still demolishing the competition currently around you can't concede defeat when you're destroying the only competition around.

No, not total. Launch aligned cumulative sales. Take a look at that link, or the main page of VGchartz. The Switch is not selling well compared to Nintendo's old business. Everyone is comparing mobile Switch sales vs Wii U sales and pretending everything is fine. Switch sales dropped last year vs 2018. Ignore the Lite nonsense, it isn't even a Switch. Nintendo's stock dropped massively on the earnings news, look at the last 5 days.

I want Nintendo to be number one, and I want them to be strong. But first they need to learn to make good hardware. It might happen. They have ARM and nVidia on their side, and that was the right choice. They got rid of optical drives, and adopted flash storage before Microsoft and Sony, also the right choice. They even used standard SD cards, imagine that (SONY!). But they still have a tendency to chase gimmicks. They also don't choose the right stuff. The PS4 was a miracle in my mind, and we have Mark Cerny to thank for it. Nintendo's leadership when it comes to hardware has been quite horrid for a while.

As I've said many times, Nintendo has a good chance to make the best low cost console. 4x A76 cores (like in low end Chinese phones, 5 years NEWER than the Switch) and a GTX 1650 Super (which sells for $159) and it would equal the Xbox One X for less than $250. A real home console. I'm not that optimistic, but we do have a new CEO, who knows?



Alistair said:
Wyrdness said:

3DS is the third best selling platform in Japan in total :? saying a platform isn't going to match it is not saying much at all because getting close to it is still demolishing the competition currently around you can't concede defeat when you're destroying the only competition around.

No, not total. Launch aligned cumulative sales. Take a look at that link, or the main page of VGchartz. The Switch is not selling well compared to Nintendo's old business. Everyone is comparing mobile Switch sales vs Wii U sales and pretending everything is fine. Switch sales dropped last year vs 2018. Ignore the Lite nonsense, it isn't even a Switch. Nintendo's stock dropped massively on the earnings news, look at the last 5 days.

I want Nintendo to be number one, and I want them to be strong. But first they need to learn to make good hardware. It might happen. They have ARM and nVidia on their side, and that was the right choice. They got rid of optical drives, and adopted flash storage before Microsoft and Sony, also the right choice. They even used standard SD cards, imagine that (SONY!). But they still have a tendency to chase gimmicks. They also don't choose the right stuff. The PS4 was a miracle in my mind, and we have Mark Cerny to thank for it. Nintendo's leadership when it comes to hardware has been quite horrid for a while.

As I've said many times, Nintendo has a good chance to make the best low cost console. 4x A76 cores (like in low end Chinese phones, 5 years NEWER than the Switch) and a GTX 1650 Super (which sells for $159) and it would equal the Xbox One X for less than $250. A real home console. I'm not that optimistic, but we do have a new CEO, who knows?

Yet another good post. You are doing well.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Shipments

Alistair said:
Wyrdness said:

3DS is the third best selling platform in Japan in total :? saying a platform isn't going to match it is not saying much at all because getting close to it is still demolishing the competition currently around you can't concede defeat when you're destroying the only competition around.

No, not total. Launch aligned cumulative sales. Take a look at that link, or the main page of VGchartz. The Switch is not selling well compared to Nintendo's old business. Everyone is comparing mobile Switch sales vs Wii U sales and pretending everything is fine. Switch sales dropped last year vs 2018. Ignore the Lite nonsense, it isn't even a Switch. Nintendo's stock dropped massively on the earnings news, look at the last 5 days.

I want Nintendo to be number one, and I want them to be strong. But first they need to learn to make good hardware. It might happen. They have ARM and nVidia on their side, and that was the right choice. They got rid of optical drives, and adopted flash storage before Microsoft and Sony, also the right choice. They even used standard SD cards, imagine that (SONY!). But they still have a tendency to chase gimmicks. They also don't choose the right stuff. The PS4 was a miracle in my mind, and we have Mark Cerny to thank for it. Nintendo's leadership when it comes to hardware has been quite horrid for a while.

As I've said many times, Nintendo has a good chance to make the best low cost console. 4x A76 cores (like in low end Chinese phones, 5 years NEWER than the Switch) and a GTX 1650 Super (which sells for $159) and it would equal the Xbox One X for less than $250. A real home console. I'm not that optimistic, but we do have a new CEO, who knows?

For bolded: What are you basing this on?

For the underlined: Source for the comparison? I thought sales increased last year vs 2018, not decreased.



Alistair said:
Wyrdness said:

3DS is the third best selling platform in Japan in total :? saying a platform isn't going to match it is not saying much at all because getting close to it is still demolishing the competition currently around you can't concede defeat when you're destroying the only competition around.

No, not total. Launch aligned cumulative sales. Take a look at that link, or the main page of VGchartz. The Switch is not selling well compared to Nintendo's old business. Everyone is comparing mobile Switch sales vs Wii U sales and pretending everything is fine. Switch sales dropped last year vs 2018. Ignore the Lite nonsense, it isn't even a Switch. Nintendo's stock dropped massively on the earnings news, look at the last 5 days.

I want Nintendo to be number one, and I want them to be strong. But first they need to learn to make good hardware. It might happen. They have ARM and nVidia on their side, and that was the right choice. They got rid of optical drives, and adopted flash storage before Microsoft and Sony, also the right choice. They even used standard SD cards, imagine that (SONY!). But they still have a tendency to chase gimmicks. They also don't choose the right stuff. The PS4 was a miracle in my mind, and we have Mark Cerny to thank for it. Nintendo's leadership when it comes to hardware has been quite horrid for a while.

As I've said many times, Nintendo has a good chance to make the best low cost console. 4x A76 cores (like in low end Chinese phones, 5 years NEWER than the Switch) and a GTX 1650 Super (which sells for $159) and it would equal the Xbox One X for less than $250. A real home console. I'm not that optimistic, but we do have a new CEO, who knows?

NS: 11.6m
PS4: 8.84m

They already are, sales didn't drop either that part is a figment of your imagination.