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Alistair said:

I am on fire today. Take a look at the front page of this website:

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/442227/switch-vs-3ds-in-japanvgchartz-gap-chartsdecember-2019/

Switch can't even match the 3DS never mind the DS in Japan, and Japan is Switch's top market. 3DS plus Wii U outsold the Switch. That is a fail. Leaving a market and conceding defeat is not a sign of strength. The Switch is universally hated by Nintendo home console lovers. It is selling to the old market, the same people who bought their mobile hardware (which I've never bought).

Also, if you want to know how much you should actually be paying for a Switch home console, look at the new version of the nVidia shield. It is selling for $130 at the store near my home. The new model. So considering nVidia's profit margins are much higher than Nintendo's, I'm sure Nintendo can sell a home console version of the Switch for $130 also. But they shouldn't. They should make it 3x faster first and make it $199 instead.

I don't feel happy paying $300 to buy a $130 home console, and having PS3 graphics in 2020. With no controller included (and let's not call the joycon grip a controller, that is marketing, not a controller).

Hopefully globally in Japan becomes a new site meme.



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Alistair said:
It's a fail. They shrunk their addressable market. They replaced a successful home and mobile business with a mobile only business, and are selling worse than the 3DS but have no home console sales at all. You can't spin Nintendo leaving the market as a success. If Microsoft stopped making an Xbox, that isn't a success.

What on Earth?

1) They are successful half the time and unsuccessful the other half in the last decade. Wii Ds was success. Wii U 3ds was failure that lead to operating losses or breaking even.

2) Switch is tracking way ahead of 3DS. It's actually ahead of Wii and close behind DS right now. And unlike 3DS, they didn't have to slash the cost a whopping $80 to sell it months after launch. They are making far more profit on each Switch sold than 3DS, and they are selling far more Switches than 3DS did.

3) It is a success if they make more profit each year and it appears they are.



Wyrdness said:
Alistair said:

No, not total. Launch aligned cumulative sales. Take a look at that link, or the main page of VGchartz. The Switch is not selling well compared to Nintendo's old business. Everyone is comparing mobile Switch sales vs Wii U sales and pretending everything is fine. Switch sales dropped last year vs 2018. Ignore the Lite nonsense, it isn't even a Switch. Nintendo's stock dropped massively on the earnings news, look at the last 5 days.

I want Nintendo to be number one, and I want them to be strong. But first they need to learn to make good hardware. It might happen. They have ARM and nVidia on their side, and that was the right choice. They got rid of optical drives, and adopted flash storage before Microsoft and Sony, also the right choice. They even used standard SD cards, imagine that (SONY!). But they still have a tendency to chase gimmicks. They also don't choose the right stuff. The PS4 was a miracle in my mind, and we have Mark Cerny to thank for it. Nintendo's leadership when it comes to hardware has been quite horrid for a while.

As I've said many times, Nintendo has a good chance to make the best low cost console. 4x A76 cores (like in low end Chinese phones, 5 years NEWER than the Switch) and a GTX 1650 Super (which sells for $159) and it would equal the Xbox One X for less than $250. A real home console. I'm not that optimistic, but we do have a new CEO, who knows?

NS: 11.6m
PS4: 8.84m

They already are, sales didn't drop either that part is a figment of your imagination.

I think we are supposed to deduct Switch lite sales from the overall sales, since we’re supposed to ‚ignore that nonsense’, to make his spin work. And what a spin it is.

I‘m actually laughing irl over here. I haven‘t seen this level of outrageously funny in quite a while on this site. Every single sentence is a hit!



There are too many other factors to compare for this to really be meaningful. For example, their profits from 2012-19 and lower mainly because of the Wii U flopping, which wasn't a direct effect of them having 2 hardware lines to support.

Also, for operating income you should say gross profit instead of just profit. Just a nitpick.



Wyrdness said:

3DS is the third best selling platform in Japan in total :? saying a platform isn't going to match it is not saying much at all because getting close to it is still demolishing the competition currently around you can't concede defeat when you're destroying the only competition around.

Not to mention it will most likely outsell the 3ds in japan too.



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SuperNova said:
Wyrdness said:

NS: 11.6m
PS4: 8.84m

They already are, sales didn't drop either that part is a figment of your imagination.

I think we are supposed to deduct Switch lite sales from the overall sales, since we’re supposed to ‚ignore that nonsense’, to make his spin work. And what a spin it is.

I‘m actually laughing irl over here. I haven‘t seen this level of outrageously funny in quite a while on this site. Every single sentence is a hit!

We tend to say all the time, that this or that blew our mind. In this case I think the Nintendo quarterly report *literally* blew his mind, it is the only explanation for these posts.

The thread will get legendary status for Alistairs posts alone. And we now finally have globally in Japan.

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