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haxxiy on 09 September 2020
SvennoJ said:
haxxiy said:
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-09-covid-patients-long-term-lung-heart.html

Follow-up study on formerly hospitalized patients from Austria show decreasing lung damage and other after-effects in the months following discharge. No severe heart disfuction related to SARS-CoV-2 was observed. Rehabilitation seems to speed up the path to complete recovery as well.

Good news it eventually gets better, however

It is sobering to hear that more than half of the patients in this study showed damage to their lungs and hearts 12 weeks after hospital discharge, and that nearly 40% were still suffering from symptoms such as breathlessness. The good news, however, is that patients do improve and this surely will help the rehabilitation process, as discussed in the second presentation.

We still aren't any wiser whether my wife actually had Covid-19 in Februari, but she is still often short of breath. It's been 6 months now... Too late for regular anti-body tests, not that you can get them here nor T-cell tests (if that exists).

The average age of this group is 61, mostly are male and smokers. All have been hospitalized, with a significant portion needing mechanical ventilation even. It doesn't seem feasible your wife would be worse off than these people unless perhaps she's a true long-hauler, but then, these are in truth fairly rare and you would be able to test it.

There's probably a million posts out there in the internet of people wondering if their bad January or February flu was actually Covid-19. Truth is, statistically speaking, the chances are insignificant. Severe bouts of influenza and common cold do happen from time to time, even to healthy, fit people, and these can and will cause organ damage to some (including even the heart).



 

 

 

 

 

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Barozi on 09 September 2020
Barozi said:

7,564 positive cases (-11.1%) with 1,101k tests (+11.6%).

On average there were 1,081 positive cases a day (or 1,261 if you discard Sunday).

228 in ICU (+0.0%)

Finally a week that can be considered as good. Cases dropped by 11% while testing capacity increased by almost 12%. Positivity rate is now only 0.74% which is the 4th lowest value. We're closing in on the testing capacity limit which is around 1.3m to 1.4m tests/week. On the flipside, some labs have reached their limit already. This week, about 35k samples couldn't be tested.

Another increase in positive cases from abroad but the rate at which it's rising is slowing down considerably.
#1 Kosovo - 2,946 (+17%)
#2 Croatia - 2,639 (+47%)
#3 Turkey - 1,825 (+15%)

7,810 positive cases (+3.3%) with 1,050k tests (-4.6%).

On average there were 1,116 positive cases a day (or 1,302 if you discard Sunday).

227 in ICU (-0.4%)

Flat-ish week. Nothing more to report really.



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vivster on 10 September 2020

After Bolivia and Ecuador charging up the ranks we now have 5 South American countries in the top 10 of deaths per capita. If the trend continues Spain and UK will be out of the Top 10 within a month unless they can't get their second wave under control.



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melbye on 10 September 2020
TallSilhouette said:
Nighthawk117 said:

The only thing Trump and Hitler have in common is that they are both white men.

Along with the populism, authoritarianism, fascism, xenophobia, etc. Just because we haven't gone full genocidal dictatorship doesn't mean the same tactics and rhetoric haven't been employed.

Oh just stop it, if Trump was a fascist or authoritarian the violent revolutionary communists wouldn't have been allowed to riot for over 100 days, anti-Trump media would have been shut down long ago and the governor and mayors that hate him wouldn't have been allowed to run the states and cities as they want



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Runa216 on 10 September 2020
Pemalite said:
Nighthawk117 said:

Even if Hillary were president, instead of Trump, the US would still have 200k dead from the China virus. The American people don't listen to their leaders, they would rather flip them the bird.

You have met Australians right?
We abused our leader, we ridiculed our leader, we dragged our leader through the mud, we refused to shake our leaders hand... And that was in January this year while the country was burning.
COVID hit and our leader introduces measures to curb it's spread, we listened and we complied for the benefit of the entire nation.

Amazing how one single corrupt, incompetent, selfish wanker can have an entire country against him, then support him a month later.... Why? Because his arguments were sound when they needed to be sound.

The reason why Trump just can't convince Americans of anything is simply because... He is an absolute idiot that has divided the nation and keeps it divided and hasn't provided any sound arguments or plans to stop COVID in it's track, it's simply a running joke at this point...

Absolutely destroyed economy, way to many lives lost... And all he cares is probably when he can play Golf next.

We had a similar thing with Ontario Premier Doug Ford. dude was a total trash fire of a leader, then COVID happened and...he handled it remarkably well for about 6 months, changing even this liberal SJW's mind on him. 



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Runa216 on 10 September 2020
melbye said:
TallSilhouette said:

Along with the populism, authoritarianism, fascism, xenophobia, etc. Just because we haven't gone full genocidal dictatorship doesn't mean the same tactics and rhetoric haven't been employed.

Oh just stop it, if Trump was a fascist or authoritarian the violent revolutionary communists wouldn't have been allowed to riot for over 100 days, anti-Trump media would have been shut down long ago and the governor and mayors that hate him wouldn't have been allowed to run the states and cities as they want

The only reason he's NOT a Fascist or Authoritarian is that the US government and the nation as a whole has rules to prevent such things from ever actually happening. If you don't think he's at least TRYING to break those rules, then you haven't been paying attention.



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melbye on 10 September 2020
Runa216 said:
melbye said:

Oh just stop it, if Trump was a fascist or authoritarian the violent revolutionary communists wouldn't have been allowed to riot for over 100 days, anti-Trump media would have been shut down long ago and the governor and mayors that hate him wouldn't have been allowed to run the states and cities as they want

The only reason he's NOT a Fascist or Authoritarian is that the US government and the nation as a whole has rules to prevent such things from ever actually happening. If you don't think he's at least TRYING to break those rules, then you haven't been paying attention.

Or you are just seeing things that aren't there because you have bought into the media's lies



Runa216 on 10 September 2020
melbye said:
Runa216 said:

The only reason he's NOT a Fascist or Authoritarian is that the US government and the nation as a whole has rules to prevent such things from ever actually happening. If you don't think he's at least TRYING to break those rules, then you haven't been paying attention.

Or you are just seeing things that aren't there because you have bought into the media's lies

I don't need to see the media's lies, I hear what trump says and tweets, and Actual historians/scholars/experts (with no media or political affiliation) are saying that Trump's behaviour and message is unquestionably authoritarian. 

Maybe it's you who should be more picky with your news media sources. 

**Edit** And seriously, what is it with people dismissing anything that doesn't suit their narrative as fake news? You can't really be that willingly ignorant, can you?



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vivster on 10 September 2020
melbye said:
TallSilhouette said:

Along with the populism, authoritarianism, fascism, xenophobia, etc. Just because we haven't gone full genocidal dictatorship doesn't mean the same tactics and rhetoric haven't been employed.

Oh just stop it, if Trump was a fascist or authoritarian the violent revolutionary communists wouldn't have been allowed to riot for over 100 days, anti-Trump media would have been shut down long ago and the governor and mayors that hate him wouldn't have been allowed to run the states and cities as they want

The Tiananmen Square protests lasted for 2 weeks and they were only isolated to a single city. The Hong Kong protests are still going strong after over a year, also only isolated in a single city. Are you saying China is not authoritarian fascist? The Belarus protests are still happening. Is Putin not authoritarian and fascist?

What kind of fucked up metric is "length of time until a protest is suppressed" for dictator like behavior? Trump said himself on multiple occasions how much he admires the different dictators of the world. Even if he is not a dictator yet, it is clear that it's what he wants to be. Remember federal agents kidnapping people and those concentration camps for asylum seekers? You'd have to be willfully blind to not recognize a wannabe despot.

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