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Whats going on in Brazil. Jesus.



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crissindahouse said:
Pemalite said:

Government has enacted some smart fiscal policy choices.
There is going to be an economic hit, no doubt, but the people are protected by a robust welfare system to weather the storm.

But we will get back to economic growth sooner rather than later... Sooner than most countries because we have successfully beaten COVID 19.

Well, Australia is very strong in exports. Especially with raw materials. Even if the domestic market wouldn't suffer much, your exports could and if people working in an exporting industry will suffer, they will also spend less on the domestic market. Maybe not even because of a definite job loss but because of the fear to lose the job. 

It's not fun to buy a new car, furniture or whatever with an uncertain future.

I guess most exports go to China because you have what they need but if they need less from you because as example Europe needs less from China then it will still hit Australia.

Sure, many other countries will be in much bigger trouble but with such a connected world economy, it won't be a fun time for any country.

I just hope that not too many will give up and take their own life.

Australian chinese exports for the 2017-2018 fiscal year amounted to $123.3 Billion dollars or 6.7% of GDP.
$79.9 Billion of that was just raw Iron exports, or China accounted for about 30% of total Australian exports.

It's a significant part of our economy and it that helps drive growth but we have allot of diversification... Which is why during the Global Financial Crisis when China stopped taking in our minerals, we still didn't enter a recession, one of the few modern, developed nations to avoid that scenario... Why? Because we are a services economy, not an export or manufacturing one.
Services accounts for 62.7% of GDP and accounts for 78.8% of the employed work force.

In recent years we have been driving our economy to become the food-bowl of Asia, we are an entire sparsely-populated continent with allot of farm land... And some nations are having a shortage on various foods like meats right now, so we are in a prime position to capitalize on that.

At the moment though the Australian Government is leading the world charge for a full systemic inquiry and investigation into how the COVID-19 situation arose... China essentially tried to threaten the economic stick at us and that has probably only made us more determined to do it.

So there will likely be moves to distance ourselves economically from China going forth I think, which can only be a good thing for us, less reliance on a single nation is a wise choice.

Our economic hit I think is going to be less severe than other countries, because we could get back to economic growth sooner due to having defeated the virus and our federal government started giving $3,000 monthly payments to all the unemployed, $3,000 to business if they keep people employed, $1,500 lump sum for the aged, disabled... And our state government gave $550 to all the unemployed on top of it.

There have been exemptions provided for rent/bill relief and more.

We undertook allot of debt to do that, but it will pay off in the long term.



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Pemalite said:
crissindahouse said:

Well, Australia is very strong in exports. Especially with raw materials. Even if the domestic market wouldn't suffer much, your exports could and if people working in an exporting industry will suffer, they will also spend less on the domestic market. Maybe not even because of a definite job loss but because of the fear to lose the job. 

It's not fun to buy a new car, furniture or whatever with an uncertain future.

I guess most exports go to China because you have what they need but if they need less from you because as example Europe needs less from China then it will still hit Australia.

Sure, many other countries will be in much bigger trouble but with such a connected world economy, it won't be a fun time for any country.

Australian chinese exports for the 2017-2018 fiscal year amounted to $123.3 Billion dollars or 6.7% of GDP.
$79.9 Billion of that was just raw Iron exports, or China accounted for about 30% of total Australian exports.

It's a significant part of our economy and it that helps drive growth but we have allot of diversification... Which is why during the Global Financial Crisis when China stopped taking in our minerals, we still didn't enter a recession, one of the few modern, developed nations to avoid that scenario... Why? Because we are a services economy, not an export or manufacturing one.
Services accounts for 62.7% of GDP and accounts for 78.8% of the employed work force.

In recent years we have been driving our economy to become the food-bowl of Asia, we are an entire sparsely-populated continent with allot of farm land... And some nations are having a shortage on various foods like meats right now, so we are in a prime position to capitalize on that.

At the moment though the Australian Government is leading the world charge for a full systemic inquiry and investigation into how the COVID-19 situation arose... China essentially tried to threaten the economic stick at us and that has probably only made us more determined to do it.

So there will likely be moves to distance ourselves economically from China going forth I think, which can only be a good thing for us, less reliance on a single nation is a wise choice.

Our economic hit I think is going to be less severe than other countries, because we could get back to economic growth sooner due to having defeated the virus and our federal government started giving $3,000 monthly payments to all the unemployed, $3,000 to business if they keep people employed, $1,500 lump sum for the aged, disabled... And our state government gave $550 to all the unemployed on top of it.

There have been exemptions provided for rent/bill relief and more.

We undertook allot of debt to do that, but it will pay off in the long term.

Eu is the 2nd biggest trade partner for Australia, and we re fully behinde you guys (we're your biggest investors "by far").
And like Ka-Pi said you guys have great meat / mineral exports, we'll keep buying.



Phoenix20 said:

That baby formula stuff is scary.
I remember a few years back they had the same issue, were some babies died due to bad baby formula.

Quality controll on such items should be really high, so they dont run into that sort of thing.
Its also a matter of trust, when theres repeated issues like this.... 'cuz it seems like it happends every few years.

The good news is everytime this happends, danish (for some reason we sell alot of baby formula to china) products do really well.
Chinese parrents that are well off, will actually go out of their way to buy european products for the "trust" that the products are safe for use.



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RolStoppable said:
The German Bundesliga was restarted today, so finally a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, the consequences of COVID-19 are still around. The league has given out a recommendation that goals shouldn't be celebrated via close gatherings of players which goes to show that corona made people dumber. For one, people don't get infected by being close to each other; a prerequisite for transmission is that at least one person is infected in the first place. And two, the game of football has multiple recurring situations where players of both teams are very close together, like free kicks and corner kicks.

Dortmund kicked Schalke's butt, 4-0.

Good Riddance for the Königsblauen!

Mummelmann said:
RolStoppable said:
The German Bundesliga was restarted today, so finally a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, the consequences of COVID-19 are still around. The league has given out a recommendation that goals shouldn't be celebrated via close gatherings of players which goes to show that corona made people dumber. For one, people don't get infected by being close to each other; a prerequisite for transmission is that at least one person is infected in the first place. And two, the game of football has multiple recurring situations where players of both teams are very close together, like free kicks and corner kicks.

Dortmund kicked Schalke's butt, 4-0.

Of course they did, they have a Norwegian striker now.

That's no Zlatan and no Poul Nielsen, so not good enough

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John2290 said:

We, the rest of the world, are greatful to you, the US, for once again stepping into the fire and giving us a heads of on how hot the flames are. Thank you for your service, fingers crossed all goes well and if it doesn't, it was great having you as a super power to look toward but, China numba wan, beeeches!

Hah! China is going down because of their handling of this virus which originated in Wuhan. They can forget about the 2022 Winter Olympics - watch how many countries boycott them starting early next year.



John2290 said:
Nighthawk117 said:

Hah! China is going down because of their handling of this virus which originated in Wuhan. They can forget about the 2022 Winter Olympics - watch how many countries boycott them starting early next year.

China is the strongest country of Earth right now, like it or not, and by so large a margin it's terrifying. The also have the weak ass strain of the Virus that started in Wuhan. 

John, please enough already....Stop drinking the Kool-Aid of the Chinese Communist Party. I expect better from you man.



Nighthawk117 said:
John2290 said:

China is the strongest country of Earth right now, like it or not, and by so large a margin it's terrifying. The also have the weak ass strain of the Virus that started in Wuhan. 

John, please enough already....Stop drinking the Kool-Aid of the Chinese Communist Party. I expect better from you man.

I doubt he is being even remotely serious.



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Nighthawk117 said:
John2290 said:

We, the rest of the world, are greatful to you, the US, for once again stepping into the fire and giving us a heads of on how hot the flames are. Thank you for your service, fingers crossed all goes well and if it doesn't, it was great having you as a super power to look toward but, China numba wan, beeeches!

Hah! China is going down because of their handling of this virus which originated in Wuhan. They can forget about the 2022 Winter Olympics - watch how many countries boycott them starting early next year.

Lol, this capitalist world is ruled by money, not people. Money loves China, especially US money. And as long as money is more important than people, China will prosper.

It's always funny when US people try to talk down to China when their economy is the most intertwined with China.



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