I would. Either way it's just semantics.

hmmm close enough? 

read this:
https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/scores-of-probable-coronavirus-deaths-are-not-being-counted-by-the-city/

If you go from a "normal" avg of ~24 deaths due to heart attacks pr day.
To suddenly haveing 200+ every day.

Thats basically a factor of 10.

Just a "odd" coincidence most of these happend to have Covid19 symptoms before haveing heart attacks? yet wheren't tested for it after they died.
Cause of death noted down = Cardiac arrest.


I would not be surprised if in the US, you guys arnt counting nurseing homes, hospice,... or home deaths, correctly, or to the same degree as most european countries have.  Basically there could be twice as many deaths due to covid19 in the USA right now, as worldometers.info shows, and I wouldn't even be surprised.

The rise of cases in Russia is keeping the daily reported cases in Europe above that of the USA despite most countries being on a decline.

On average Russia is now responsible for 20% of the daily reported cases in Europe. An overview of the largest contributors
Russia: 20.0%
UK: 18.5%
Spain: 12.2%
Italy: 10.0%
France: 7.8%

Europe is still responsible for 36% of worldwide reported cases, the USA adds 35%, leaving 29% for the rest of the world, which is increasing now Europe and the USA have peaked. The daily reported cases worldwide currently aren't growing, yet the decline from Europe and the USA is filled up by rising numbers in other countries.

Canada is still going up a bit, maybe an after effect of people visiting each other during Easter, maybe just an effect of more testing since reported deaths do seem to have reached a peak. In my local county 3 new cases were reported today, up to 78 confirmed. The question is, does that number mask another 700 active cases or more. It would be great to know how infectious this virus really is.

https://www.bt.dk/samfund/virusforskere-opbygning-af-flokimmunitet-er-tvivlsomt

^ in danish (but as a swede you should be able to read it, otherwise google translate)

"Immunity is currently suspected to only last upto 1-2 years."
"Gaining flock immunity could take as long as 5 years to reach"  - Astrid Iversen (professor of virology&immunity at Oxford University)


"Baseret på al den forskning, der findes om coronavirusser generelt, vil den ny coronavirus sandsynligvis følge samme mønster og give samme immunrespons, som coronavirusser i udgangspunktet gør, nemlig en ganske kortvarig beskyttende immunitet." - Astrid Iversen

(translation:  "Based on all research, there currently is on coronavirus's in general, this new coronavirus will likely follow the same paterns and give the same immuneresponces as other coronaviruses do, namely a relatively short lasting immunity" )

"Så antistofferne vil med al sandsynlighed være væk, inden vi har opnået flokimmunitet, siger hun til Berlingske." - Astrid Iversen

(translation: "so antibodies will with all likelyhood be gone, before we have reached meaningfull herd immunity, she says to Berlingske (newspaper)")


"Flokimmunitet vil medføre megen sygdom og død og kan med al sandsynlighed alligevel ikke lade sig gøre, siger Astrid Iversen."

(translation: "herd immunity, would result is alot of sickness and deaths and will in all likelyhood not even be possible, says Astrid Iversen" )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlVU8XTLICI

WHO ~2-3% infected
Neatherlands bloodtesting ~3% infected.
(contradicts the standford university study data, which is likely faulty) (but which everyone uses in models to claim spread is more than it is)

Astrid Iversen actually believes spread isnt fast enough to reach 60%+ before your 1-2year immunity falls away.
Basically with social distanceing, and people not wanting to get this (and thus naturally trying to avoid getting it), it wont spread fast enough to reach herd immunity before you have people loseing immunity to it.

The "way" to get herd immunity, would be to basically force people to get infected then.

Semantics ... 3 or 4 is the same as "a large number" ... really?

The death toll of one man's rampage in Nova Scotia now stands at 22, compared to 10 covid19 deaths there... The worst mass shooting in modern Canadian history. No clue yet what set him off but since he was wearing a police uniform and had made his car look like a police car, definitely well planned. It was also a 100km rampage leaving 16 crime scenes behind before he got shot in a standoff with police.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/portapique-shooting-memorials-april-21-1.5539894

I wonder if the doom and gloom or lock down from the corona virus set him off. Around the world crime rates are dropping since the lock downs:
https://time.com/5819507/crime-drop-coronavirus/
Yet I suspect domestic violence got worse.

vivster said: Barozi said: We're a few days past Easter so I guess numbers should be more or less accurate again. Lockdown seems to have worked quite well in Germany as new infections have decreased quite a bit. Peak was at the beginning of April. Also about 66% have recovered. Will be interesting to see what effect the lifting of some of the restrictions will have. Probably not that much considering they were rather minor. We won't see the effects of Easter until later with incubation time and all.

That's not what I was trying to say. We've reached a point where testing capacity is back on track and all tests that were made during Easter (and the WE after that) have been added to the tally.

People in his government so far have done a great job at keeping him on a leash. If it comes to something as serious as starting an actual war they'll oppose him even stronger. Trump is a pussy and he doesn't like to push past resistance, so he'll just drop it and go golfing.

The panic isn't even close to being as much as causing a multitude of additional heart failures. They're diagnosed as such because they're not tested for anything else. You know what else makes your heart stop beating? Not being able to breath.

Since the US has a vested interest to cover up COVID19 deaths I doubt we'll ever get any accurate numbers before the year is over and we get a tally of total deaths. Of all the western countries the US should not only have the most COVID19 deaths but also by far the most deaths caused indirectly due to people not getting the care they need.

the anti-virus measures definitely didn't "set him off", but the state of affairs might have provided him the opportunity to act out his fantasies he clearly had beforehands (which is why he had police-disguise at the ready)

Any prior mental health issues?
It should be a policy not to tell weapons to these people, and/or if they had ones (guns) before a mental illness, to have them taken away by someone,
once they get such.  Crazy person + gun = bad combo.