Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[vivster]

chakkra said:

vivster said:

You're contradicting yourself. If China is becoming more self sufficient by people pulling out then what will they gain from war? How will that war look like? Will they just hop over to Japan and take stuff? Why?

If anyone actually believes he can unify the world then that person is probably not in politics right now. China can't even keep a tiny nation like Taiwan from revolting and you think they're gonna go to war with other nations?

China's government are total assholes, but if they have shown anything in the past decades it's that they're not idiots. Only idiots go to war.

I'm seriously concerned about what Trump might do after all of this is over. I suspect that he has been looking for an excuse to attack China for a long time now. I just hope the other segments of U.S. government are strong enough to stop him.

People in his government so far have done a great job at keeping him on a leash. If it comes to something as serious as starting an actual war they'll oppose him even stronger. Trump is a pussy and he doesn't like to push past resistance, so he'll just drop it and go golfing.

KiigelHeart said:

vivster said:
Still don't like how heavily under reported US deaths are. People are dying at home in the thousands.

How can they be sure which deaths are caused by corona? Lockdown and hysteria will also kill people.

Here in Finland, doctors are worried that many severely ill people aren't going to the hospitals anymore. 30% less people have gone to cardiologists for example. They're afraid to catch corona but end up being at for greater risk staying at home.

I'd expect this has been far worse in US past month with all the panic. And there was been much more people dying by heart failures...

The panic isn't even close to being as much as causing a multitude of additional heart failures. They're diagnosed as such because they're not tested for anything else. You know what else makes your heart stop beating? Not being able to breath.

Since the US has a vested interest to cover up COVID19 deaths I doubt we'll ever get any accurate numbers before the year is over and we get a tally of total deaths. Of all the western countries the US should not only have the most COVID19 deaths but also by far the most deaths caused indirectly due to people not getting the care they need.