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You concerned yet?

Yes 83 47.98%
 
No, but I will be followi... 50 28.90%
 
No, its being overblown 40 23.12%
 
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Well, It's safe to say that I have the flu. Nice knowing ya'll folks. Off to make funeral preparations and write the old will and shit. Peace out.



 

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John2290 said:
Okay, is this China being China? Or is this ten times worse than they say it is... Why are they burning bodies? Why are the shutting people down? Just a normal day in China?

Just a normal day. One could argue that dying to the virus is the preferable option than suffering through what the Chinese government can put you through.

Anyway, stop looking at China and focus on the cases overseas. They're more representative of how dangerous the virus actually is.



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vivster said:
John2290 said:
Okay, is this China being China? Or is this ten times worse than they say it is... Why are they burning bodies? Why are the shutting people down? Just a normal day in China?

Just a normal day. One could argue that dying to the virus is the preferable option than suffering through what the Chinese government can put you through.

Anyway, stop looking at China and focus on the cases overseas. They're more representative of how dangerous the virus actually is.

Yes, this is what has gotten me so freaked out. The absolutely crazy over reaction from the countries of the world with huge economic decisions being made. For H1N1 and the bird flu we seen nothing on this level even late in the game, if this is the measure been taken so early then surely they have greater knowledge of of the virus or at least suspect something greater than what is officially out there. I can't make heads nor tales of what is happening in China but I can see the reaction of countries that don't even have reported cases yet of human to human transmission. Following all the outbreaks since the scare of H1N1 in 2009 and this seems so different. All we can hope for is that these measures are reactionary from plans laid out from the last outbreaks and not something the public isn't seeing.

Like I said before, we don't have to worry about it as a direct threat on our lives, well unless you've been treating flu's with antibiotics your whole life and have no natural immune system but our elderly, our young, the effect it will have on our food sources, the economic effect, the effect in poorer countries and the conflict that will cause indirectly on our countries. If it blows up world wide as bad as it is in China right now, even with the official data it might as well have the same effect as a global conflict for the months until a vaccine. That is what is fucking scary but alas, lets wait another few weeks and see how this all pans out, if the measures taken were enough and in time and hopefully China isn't lying.



 

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https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/20/1/28/n11828240.htm?fbclid=IwAR3G63C81jNi0IV6AutqScrXfHLZmRHhBjvObBBXLR8xQ3eNOCh3BrKMAT0

This Chinese article says 100.000 cases and 3000 deaths at Jan 29th. Could be a fake, I let people check by them self with Google Translator and conclude what they want.



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Amnesia said:

https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/20/1/28/n11828240.htm?fbclid=IwAR3G63C81jNi0IV6AutqScrXfHLZmRHhBjvObBBXLR8xQ3eNOCh3BrKMAT0

This Chinese article says 100.000 cases and 3000 deaths at Jan 29th. Could be a fake, I let people check by them self with Google Translator and conclude what they want.

Highly unlikely imo. The Epoch Times is not typically considered to be reliable when it comes to Chinese news. There has been a conflict between the Epoch Times and the Chinese government for many years, with the Epoch Times saying everything they can to make the Chinese Government look bad. The Epoch Times has been linked to a Chinese religious group called the Falun Gong, which has strong anti-communistic views and has drawn the ire of the Chinese government.  

I'm no fan of the Chinese government myself, but I highly doubt they are lying about the scale of the outbreak to such a large degree. Considering the fact that there has barely been any Human to Human transmission with the 169 cases outside of China, I find it very unlikely that the virus is virulent enough to have already spread to 100,000+ people in China.



shikamaru317 said:
Amnesia said:

https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/20/1/28/n11828240.htm?fbclid=IwAR3G63C81jNi0IV6AutqScrXfHLZmRHhBjvObBBXLR8xQ3eNOCh3BrKMAT0

This Chinese article says 100.000 cases and 3000 deaths at Jan 29th. Could be a fake, I let people check by them self with Google Translator and conclude what they want.

Highly unlikely imo. The Epoch Times is not typically considered to be reliable when it comes to Chinese news. There has been a conflict between the Epoch Times and the Chinese government for many years, with the Epoch Times saying everything they can to make the Chinese Government look bad. The Epoch Times has been linked to a Chinese religious group called the Falun Gong, which has strong anti-communistic views and has drawn the ire of the Chinese government.  

I'm no fan of the Chinese government myself, but I highly doubt they are lying about the scale of the outbreak to such a large degree. Considering the fact that there has barely been any Human to Human transmission with the 169 cases outside of China, I find it very unlikely that the virus is virulent enough to have already spread to 100,000+ people in China.

Thanks for the info. I still have an element which disturbs me a bit, when we Switch to the english version of the Epoch Times, we can't find at all this article in english. Why this "rumors" about the 10x higher casualty than what the CPP says is only addressed to locals.

Also considering the insane long time of incubation of the virus, yes it could be, that many more chineses got declared as infected cases and much less today outside.



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Amnesia said:

https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/20/1/28/n11828240.htm?fbclid=IwAR3G63C81jNi0IV6AutqScrXfHLZmRHhBjvObBBXLR8xQ3eNOCh3BrKMAT0

This Chinese article says 100.000 cases and 3000 deaths at Jan 29th. Could be a fake, I let people check by them self with Google Translator and conclude what they want.

100000 could be correct insofar that that's roughly the number of suspected infected who are carrying the virus (around 10 times the known number, which is 11k right now), but are either not sick yet (still in incubation period, which can last 10 days) or immune but still a carrier of it (which means they can still propagate the virus). But 3000 deaths is straight out of fantasyland, even when counting unaccounted persons for whatever reason.



Okay, I'm convinced that China has massive control over WHO or someone high up in WHO or at the very least they are scared of China.



 

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Amnesia said:

https://www.epochtimes.com/gb/20/1/28/n11828240.htm?fbclid=IwAR3G63C81jNi0IV6AutqScrXfHLZmRHhBjvObBBXLR8xQ3eNOCh3BrKMAT0

This Chinese article says 100.000 cases and 3000 deaths at Jan 29th. Could be a fake, I let people check by them self with Google Translator and conclude what they want.

Epoch Times is a right wing anti-communist anti-chinese paper, that more often than not let their political stance on things overshadow correct reporting on the truth. So I would take what they write with an enourmous amount of salt. It's no wonder they support Trump, their stance on truth and fake news is pretty similar.



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