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What will the new Switch model be?

Switch 2 4 5.80%
 
Switch Pro 33 47.83%
 
Switch XL 6 8.70%
 
Switch TV 9 13.04%
 
Switch Mini (clamshell) 0 0%
 
Something else 6 8.70%
 
No new SKU in 2020 11 15.94%
 
Total:69
RolStoppable said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

I'm thinking $199-229 with a pro controller included

Definitely $199 minimum for a hypothetical Switch TV, but such a console may as well be modified and ditch the SSD storage in favor of an HDD because portability doesn't need to be considered anymore. For example, Switch TV with a 500 GB HDD and Pro Controller for $249-279.

Hmm yeah interesting, I wonder if they will make a TV-only Switch. I'm guessing there have gotta be a few million gamers who like the Switch but don't ever take it outside their home, and for those that have already bought a Switch might even buy a TV-only version if it gave superior performance on top notch games like Zelda. If Nintendo did go this route, I agree that they'd probably sell it for $250 with a much larger hard drive, and offer whatever slight upgrades needed to make something like Zelda run at peak performance.

I think it's more likely we'll see a premium version of the OG Switch though, rather than a TV-only version. Bigger hard drive, slightly improved performance, maybe bigger higher res screen, with the battery capacity of the updated model of the original. The only thing is where would they price this? Would they finally give Switch a price cut and put the premium version at $300? Or would they keep Switch at $300 since it is selling faster than anything since Wii/DS and sell the premium one for like $350? I feel like a higher price point than $300 would kinda kill sales. My guess is a price cut to $250 for the original, and a premium version with more disk space, slightly improved performance, and bigger better screen for $300.



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Otter said:
NextGen_Gamer said:

A $149 Switch TV is definitely possible - the entire NVIDIA system-on-chip, including the 4GB of RAM, is maybe ~$40 to make. So you take aware the LCD touchscreen and even double the storage to 64GB - throw in a Switch Pro controller - and yes $149 would still give them a healthy profit margin. But I don't think that's it...

Instead it has to be a Switch Pro (or Super Switch as I really hope Nintendo calls it and others suggested). Another die-shrink of the NVIDIA SoC to 7-nm and double the RAM to 8GB (so, half as much as PS5/Xbox Series X is expected to have, but same as PS4/Xbox One) would make for a very powerful handheld. It would work no differently than PS4>PS4 Pro; all Switch games work on all systems, but can run at higher resolutions/better textures/shadows/etc on Switch Pro. This would be extremely easy for developers because they already always target two different power profiles now - docked and undocked. This would just be adding in two more - Super-speed docked and Super-speed undocked (made up terms on my part lol but you get what I'm saying).

Nintendo's new lineup for Holiday 2020 then could look as such:

$199 Switch Lite

$299 Switch

$399 Switch Pro

I question the logic behind a Switch Pro. 

Remember the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X have one very clear agenda in transitioning users to 4k experiences and using that as a selling point.

Switch Pro will do the same? If not are we expecting a "premium" console for a 1080p experience with slight better shadows? It sounds extremely niche and uncompelling to me, especially if we look at the games that are doing the most numbers on the Switch (pokemon/mario kart etc). Not something they'd market a whole new expensive SKU around imo.

With a Switch TV you have a cheaper price penetrative model for people who just want to play nintendo games with their family for cheap. 

You are forgetting what makes the Switch special - it's a handheld and a console. I focused on just the SoC improvements in my first post - but remember a Switch Pro model would be better in other ways. How about a 7" OLED 1080p panel - a MASSIVE upgrade over the 6.5" 720p LCD in the base Switch, and completely doable from a price-point perspective in a $399 model.

As a current Switch owner, I would be tempted to upgrade based on a bigger 1080p OLED panel alone, even with the same processing power lol

Perhaps better sounding stereo speakers? Stronger HD rumble? Heck, maybe even built-in 4G LTE? Lots of routes Nintendo could take that would make it worthwhile to hardcore gamers, on top of a SoC power increase.



NextGen_Gamer said:
Otter said:

I question the logic behind a Switch Pro. 

Remember the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X have one very clear agenda in transitioning users to 4k experiences and using that as a selling point.

Switch Pro will do the same? If not are we expecting a "premium" console for a 1080p experience with slight better shadows? It sounds extremely niche and uncompelling to me, especially if we look at the games that are doing the most numbers on the Switch (pokemon/mario kart etc). Not something they'd market a whole new expensive SKU around imo.

With a Switch TV you have a cheaper price penetrative model for people who just want to play nintendo games with their family for cheap. 

You are forgetting what makes the Switch special - it's a handheld and a console. I focused on just the SoC improvements in my first post - but remember a Switch Pro model would be better in other ways. How about a 7" OLED 1080p panel - a MASSIVE upgrade over the 6.5" 720p LCD in the base Switch, and completely doable from a price-point perspective in a $399 model.

As a current Switch owner, I would be tempted to upgrade based on a bigger 1080p OLED panel alone, even with the same processing power lol

Perhaps better sounding stereo speakers? Stronger HD rumble? Heck, maybe even built-in 4G LTE? Lots of routes Nintendo could take that would make it worthwhile to hardcore gamers, on top of a SoC power increase.

A full $100 more for a moderately larger screen and a 1080p display when most games don't even run at 1080p undocked would be a pretty big rip off. You need to have some kind of performance increase to justify that cost. 



I think it's extremely unlikely that Nintendo will release a $399 successor/Pro model in the same year that the PS5/XBX release instead of re-running 2006 and doing to the 4K twins the same thing they did to the HD twins.
Half price, budget home console with Switch Sports and a (spiritual) sequel to the best Zelda ever made would be a great way for Nintendo to welcome the new consoles in.



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NextGen_Gamer said:
Otter said:

I question the logic behind a Switch Pro. 

Remember the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X have one very clear agenda in transitioning users to 4k experiences and using that as a selling point.

Switch Pro will do the same? If not are we expecting a "premium" console for a 1080p experience with slight better shadows? It sounds extremely niche and uncompelling to me, especially if we look at the games that are doing the most numbers on the Switch (pokemon/mario kart etc). Not something they'd market a whole new expensive SKU around imo.

With a Switch TV you have a cheaper price penetrative model for people who just want to play nintendo games with their family for cheap. 

You are forgetting what makes the Switch special - it's a handheld and a console. I focused on just the SoC improvements in my first post - but remember a Switch Pro model would be better in other ways. How about a 7" OLED 1080p panel - a MASSIVE upgrade over the 6.5" 720p LCD in the base Switch, and completely doable from a price-point perspective in a $399 model.

As a current Switch owner, I would be tempted to upgrade based on a bigger 1080p OLED panel alone, even with the same processing power lol

Perhaps better sounding stereo speakers? Stronger HD rumble? Heck, maybe even built-in 4G LTE? Lots of routes Nintendo could take that would make it worthwhile to hardcore gamers, on top of a SoC power increase.

That's completely unreasonable. You ain't getting a 1080p screen until the switch 2. The most that could be expected for a hypothetical switch plus is a tegra x2 instead of x1, allowing most games to run in 1080p docked and 720p docked. It would also cost $299 at launch.



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Calling it now:

Double foldable, into a square, Switch. Fits in your pocket like a bulgy wallet but doesn't pop out. When it opens up all the way it is bigger than current switch. 980tigtx card built into the device, wireless "docking" to TV, UDR (ultra dynamic resolution), 8k screen, holographic headset projected out from 4d camera onto your face, free emulator for all Nintendo games ever for free from NES to Wii U (all games pre-installed at purchase), Epstein didn't kill himself sign permanently placed on background for the theme, subscription to Disney Plus. It will launch with an exclusive to this version game, from Nintendo's secret AAAA studio, Star Fox 8 (Game will be in 8K, photorealistic animals and Andross' brain). All for $699. Nintendo magic makes them profit $200 per device sold.

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RolStoppable said:
Otter said:
I think and hope it will be a $149 Switch TV.

Which probably also allow them to increase the clockspeed for a more consistent home console experience.

$149? That's not hope, that's wishful thinking.

Without the screen and dock, battery? probably possible tbh.
Switch lite is 199$ (without battery + screen), it should be a easy 149$ for a Switch Tv.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 06 January 2020

So when these guys were first talking about the Switch revision systems last year I though maybe they were crazy, because it seemed a little to soon... But then the Switch Lite came out and I'm like well where there's smoke there's fire! So even though we never heard anything about the Pro version I kept wondering what might of happened and I think that Nvidia just wasn't ready with the chip they had planned for the system in 2019. When articles kept popping up about Nvidia aggressively securing 7nm manufacturing production with both Samsung and TSMC, I thought man that seems like overkill.

Knowing that all of this is speculation of course, the I came across this article which was published in November 2019
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/301531-nvidias-new-jetson-xavier-nx-adds-horsepower-to-ai-at-the-edge

The Tegra X1 in the Switch was once apart of Nvidia's Jetson car Ai initiative as well, but it was repurposed as the heart and soul of Nintendo's current gaming device. Of course Nintendo wouldn't need all of the functions and features for a gaming device, but the core of this SoC would be absolutely perfect for a Switch revision. The fact they are calling it the Xavier NX is even more ironic

Xavier NX specs:
6-core Carmel Arm 64-bit CPU (6MB L2 and 4MB L3 cache)
8GB of 128-bit LPDDR4x RAM (51.2GB/second memory bandwidth)
384 Nvidia Volta gpu cores w/48 tensor cores
3Tflops-(FP32)/6Tflops-(FP16) at 15 watts of power (Of course they said 15 watts was Ai performance so Im betting normal TDP is a little higher) I could see Nintendo and Nvidia possibly using something like this but under clocked just like with the Tegra X1.

So of course this is just speculation, but Nvidia even states that they expect this new Xavier NX to ship in march while the new DigiTimes article says that Nintendo plans on ramping up production 1Q 2020.
Also the talk of them possibly using a Magnesium alloy frame would rule out a budget device or TV only unit. They would only do something like this to make the system premium, lightweight, durable, and for heat dissipation(a high spec device for its form factor)  

Last edited by Ck1x - on 06 January 2020

I am thinking it will be a only Home console Switch $199 USD with a pro controller. Everything is improved and more internal storage.

But this may all just be another peripheral device like Labo and Ring fit.



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