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Forums - Sales Discussion - According to Mat Piscatella "Next Gen consoles sales will not have a major effect on Switch sales"

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Nu-13 said:
HollyGamer said:

No , It's not about price or games or popularity of Switch (that could be true but need another different discussion ). What the expert said in his tweet is "  Switch is not a direct competitor to PS5/Xbox " . Instead it's a compliment for both and will not cannibalize each other sales. 

A statement that is 100% wrong.

HoangNhatAnh said:

Call me when top 10 selling games of Switch aren't 1st party but 3rd party instead. Majority people bought Switch for 1st party, not 3rd party

 

Call me when your post has anything to do with the subject at hand.

zorg1000 said:

That's not what happened.

With the exception of the launch window, due to shortages, 360 was outpacing its predecessor the entire time.

Xbox vs 360

Launch-1.5m vs 1.2m

Year 1-6.5m vs 6.8m

Year 2-5.7m vs 7.9m

Year 3-6.2m vs 10.9m

Year 4-4.1m vs 10.2m

Basically they tied for the first year (when Wii wasnt out yet) then 360 started outpacing it.

As for PS3, Wii had little to do with its sluggish sales, it was the ridiculously high price, Blu-Ray not being as big of deal as DVD and the loss of a ton of exclusives.

Wii was like Switch, great sales that were independent of the other consoles and complemented rather than competed with them.

I can't believe that after so long there's still this much denial. The wii was a huge hit, sony effed up the ps3 AND both of these facts impacted sales of the ps3.

Shadow1980 said:
This is a "Captain Obvious" prediction on Mat's part. The release of a console from one brand has never had any measurable impact on the sales of a console from another brand. It just doesn't happen. Ever. There's no reason to assume it will start happening now, especially in this case. Nintendo is offering an experience that's much different than what Sony & MS offer. PlayStation & Xbox are like twins, while Nintendo kind of does their own unique thing. Nintendo is not really competing directly with PS & Xbox.

You should specify that it's about existing consoles released many years prior. Consoles of the same generation affect each other a lot.

Switch target portable fans and Nintendo fans. It did compete with ps4 in some ways about software, but not directly



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HoangNhatAnh said:
Nu-13 said:

A statement that is 100% wrong.

Call me when your post has anything to do with the subject at hand.

I can't believe that after so long there's still this much denial. The wii was a huge hit, sony effed up the ps3 AND both of these facts impacted sales of the ps3.

You should specify that it's about existing consoles released many years prior. Consoles of the same generation affect each other a lot.

Switch target portable fans and Nintendo fans. It did compete with ps4 in some ways about software, but not directly

I would say they didn't even compete in SW (sure you can say their SW compete to be GOTY or anything like that, but isn't like Switch and PS4 were competing on who would receive a SW, if the game was doable on Switch it would get a release, if the game didn't need portability PS4 would get a release as well).

For me they only competed for mindshare and media coverage, but with still enough space for both to thrive (and they did, when Switch launched PS4 beat it's record year while Switch was nearly beating PS4 launch numbers at the same time).



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Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

This is evident, but I guess for some people l, it will need to be said again and again. (Not that the contrary can't happen, but it has been an irrelevant factor to console sales since ages of dawn lol)



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

zorg1000 said:

That's not what happened.

With the exception of the launch window, due to shortages, 360 was outpacing its predecessor the entire time.

Xbox vs 360

Launch-1.5m vs 1.2m

Year 1-6.5m vs 6.8m

Year 2-5.7m vs 7.9m

Year 3-6.2m vs 10.9m

Year 4-4.1m vs 10.2m

Basically they tied for the first year (when Wii wasnt out yet) then 360 started outpacing it.

As for PS3, Wii had little to do with its sluggish sales, it was the ridiculously high price, Blu-Ray not being as big of deal as DVD and the loss of a ton of exclusives.

Wii was like Switch, great sales that were independent of the other consoles and complemented rather than competed with them.

Are you saying sales were not sluggish for PS3 and XBox360 for the first few years?  Both consoles peaked in 2011 according to VGChartz numbers.  How many other 2nd and 3rd place consoles peak 5-6 years after launch?   

At the same time the Wii actually did peak early.  Wii is up when the others are down.  Then Wii is down and the others are up.  That looks a whole lot like competition.

What? I never said they weren't sluggish, I said Wii wasnt the reason, I thought I made that quite clear.

You're whole premise of "360/PS3 were down when Wii was up and 360/PS3 were up when Wii was down" makes no sense when you actually look at the trends.

2007

360-7.9m

PS3-7.9m

Wii-16.5m

2008

360-10.9m (+38%)

PS3-10.2m (+29%)

Wii-24.2m (+46%)

Why did PS3 & 360 both have ~30-40% YoY growth in Wii's peak year if Wii was the reason their sales were low?

360 & PS3 both had slower starts and peaked late but it had very little to do with Wii.



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We saw this with the PS4 once the Switch launched as well. The year the Switch launched (2017) was actually PS4's best selling year. I believe it was also Xbox One's second best selling year that year. Just because a new product is on the market doesn't mean that sales for the original product will be cannibalized, unless that product is a direct successor (e.g. PS3 sales are cannibalized by the launch of PS4, relatively speaking).



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This is obvious they're bought for different reasons Switch even has a monopoly on one side of the market.



In 2020 most likely it will not they will be released late but what about after that?, it remains to be seen how Nintendo is going to counter that
It's not about direct competition Nin needs to keep its products wanted by customers if this desire fades then surely they will need an a quick answer



miqdadi said:
In 2020 most likely it will not they will be released late but what about after that?, it remains to be seen how Nintendo is going to counter that
It's not about direct competition Nin needs to keep its products wanted by customers if this desire fades then surely they will need an a quick answer

2021 will be Switch's 5th year on the market so sales are likely to decrease regardless of what else is on the market.

But there are things they can do to keep interest up such a price cuts, further revisions and most importantly keep releasing big games.



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zorg1000 said:
miqdadi said:
In 2020 most likely it will not they will be released late but what about after that?, it remains to be seen how Nintendo is going to counter that
It's not about direct competition Nin needs to keep its products wanted by customers if this desire fades then surely they will need an a quick answer

2021 will be Switch's 5th year on the market so sales are likely to decrease regardless of what else is on the market.

But there are things they can do to keep interest up such a price cuts, further revisions and most importantly keep releasing big games.

That's the annoying part, Switch will decline in 2021 and people will claim it's cos of PS5/XSX, when it reality it is entirely normal for a system to decline in it's 5th year.



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