All around I think this is bad. Bad when SONY might have bought them and bad now that MS _has_ bought them. I guarantee if MS thinks they can get an edge on SONY they will release on XBOX/PC only. Won't happen overnight since there are contracts already in place for stuff, but it will probably happen. I don't like it at all.

If you are thinking about XBOX Game Pass that is a different story, but that is also completely up in the air. How much of a cut is SONY or Nintendo going to get if Game Pass is on their platforms?

MS puts games on non-MS platforms. MS and Bethesda have already said that the platforms a game launches on will be decided on a case by case basis. So, before we come down on MS.for screwing gamers out of some of the biggest franchises around, shouldn't we wait to see if that actually do it? It seems like a near.certainty that mainline Fallout and Elder Scrolls games will be multi-plat, at least for the foreseeable future. Will MS end up with an exclusive game from Bethesda at some point? Probably so. W Fallout 5 not appear on Playstation? I see little chance.

See, this is where you're conflating his statements. Yes, he did say he hopes the purchase will make Sony be less cocky (which I said in my post as well). But he never "excused" them for it. He  never made a value judgement on it. So him "excusing" the move is you conflating two comments together.

Also, no one was upset when the rumor was Sony was getting Zenimax. This is why I can't take you or any Sony fan seriously about "anti-consumer behavior" because you all would cheer if Sony did the same thing. This is just about you being salty about the purchase.

Outer Worlds, Wasteland 3, and Psychonauts 2 all had a agreement in place that MS honoured. Ori going to Switch is a side deal, not the same as going to PlayStation, as Nintendo isn’t direct competition. 

You want “case by case”? Fallout 76 and Elder Scrolls Online getting next gen treatments. Honouring the Deathloop and Ghostwire deals. Imo PS users are lucky to get even that. 

Otherwise I don’t see MS “screwing gamers out”. Unlike Sony which has the walled garden where you have to drop $400-$500 to play their games, Xbox puts their games on Series S/X, Windows Store, Steam, and Android pohones/tablets with Xcloud. Game Pass gets these games day 1 for significantly less then $70 upfront. 

Pretty sure that the only people you are referring to are PS only gamers. PC gamers gave their blessing as they will still have access. My impression from the comment is that PS-only gamers disdain for Xbox is the only thing stopping them from playing games they want to play.

Fact is they want to grow Game Pass and you can’t do that if Elder Scrolls 6, Fallout 5, or Starfield come to PS. You can’t play the “screw gamers” card because fact is Xbox exclusives are much more accessible then PS exclusives. 

Hahhahhaha.... yeah... got that one just right!

About the management issues, hopefully xbox leadership is able to put them in their place, and straigthen out the ship that is bethesda.
(even though I wouldn't count this as a strong point for xbox (studio management skills))

Still from ESO + Fallout 76, things can only go upwards.

I wanted to see bethesda go back to single player focused RPGs again.... hopefully thats what Xbox has planned for them continueing onwards.
We dont need a ESO 2 or a Fallout 77.

It's really sad to see all this fighting when at the end of the day we all just love to play video games. Get a PC a PS5 and a nintendo switch and you wont care what any of these companies do. I could care less what MS purchased my gaming PC is ready for it.

I have been saying basically this everytime someone tries to deny ES6, Fallout 5, and Starfield as being XBox brand exclusive.  I will be very suprised if these games come to PS5, because whether they are played on XCloud, PC, or the XBox series consoles...the brand is still growing and making MS more money in the end.

Putting them on their direct competition is not going to help them reach that goal, whether they are getting money from those sales or not.

This aged like a fine milk

First MS could have done this with Minecraft and they didn't. Second is if MS plans to make these massive titles exclusive why haven't they just come out and said it? Right now before everyone is fully locked in and purchased their new next-gen console. Why has MS not told everyone that all these massive titles that used to be multiplat will never go to playstation? It would be a massive blow to playstation. I've already seen people online waiver on whether or not to get a PS5 because of it. Instead they not only didn't say it but they said they would do a case by case basis. This to me says everything.

Doubt it. I think Sony will be hand picking small to medium sized studios for acquisitions this generation. They might buy Ember Labs when Kena comes out. You don't need to drop billions to get good games.