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DonFerrari said:

MS put 2.5B on Mohjang, bought like 5 studios past year and that won't make a dent on Sony. But still you believe MS will win the gen by spending like crazy just for the bragging rights.

Keep hoping that Sony should cower against MS.

Let's see MS buy their competitor, will wait for they to go and buy Sony and Nintendo as whole kkkkk. You asked for evidence of showing MS doing something I said they never did and never will so it seems you didn't really understand it.

About MS buying their way to success, they done a price war with X360 against PS3 and weren't able to prevent it from losing, they have been cheaper than PS4 as well for the entire gen except the first 6 months. MS can use as much money as they want, that isn't going to make they win "the war".

Sony may buy even EA and MS reply by buying Activision and that would still not make MS win. If buying "all their competition" would make MS win the war and make a lot of money they would have done it already.

Mate, what a childish response. 

Are you another one of those who think results happen instantly? MS buying Studios is one thing which has only been happening recently, but having a tug of war match with a corporation multiple times bigger than the company willing to have a buy out war with is suicide, its basic logic. But you seem to think differently and like to compare the RROD money spending to buying companies.. could you grasp at any more straws to try to win your argument? Or do you like to spin the topic in so many directions that it puts the other readers off? This is about buying companies, nothing to do with money invested for maintenance issues and RnD funding in previous generations. What we are seeing from Xbox is recently new with the amount of studios they have brought and they haven't stopped there. They are on a money spree atm and that's something they can easily afford to do, so can Sony and Nintendo to an extent.

Another spin of yours but ill answer it for the 100s time with you, Last time I checked the 360 made more money than the PS3, so for you to consider the 360 a loss to the PS3, I think you need to take off your glasses off and do some actual research for a change. 360 sold more software, 1st party games sold more, cost less to make and had Live subscription income which the PS3 didn't. Oh but you would say the PS3 won because it sold 2m more units than the 360.. what a joke but I guess I expect nothing more from you. PS3 almost killed Sony at the time but I guess its business failure is blinded by that 2m more sales.

Now back on track, stop comparing unrelated events and issues to buying out companies. Its quite clear the company with the most money will majority of the time win that battle. If Sony goes out and buys Rockstar or Zenimax, than that could trigger MS and Google to buy even more studios and brands and unlike Sony, they can easily not stop there.

Also buying out the competition isn't how businesses work they will strangulate the competition to the point of submission, unless they see it as a incredible deal and the profit is easy to obtain back. MS doesn't need to buy out the whole competition to succeed and make profits with Xbox, nor are they allowed to, however if they are pushed by lets say Sony who go deep with there wallets than MS will only go deeper in there wallets and that's something Sony cannot compete with. If you refuse to believe that than you don't understand how money works. The bigger the wallet the more power you have. 

I hope I cleared that up for you.

Last edited by Azzanation - on 08 January 2020

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Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:

MS put 2.5B on Mohjang, bought like 5 studios past year and that won't make a dent on Sony. But still you believe MS will win the gen by spending like crazy just for the bragging rights.

Keep hoping that Sony should cower against MS.

Let's see MS buy their competitor, will wait for they to go and buy Sony and Nintendo as whole kkkkk. You asked for evidence of showing MS doing something I said they never did and never will so it seems you didn't really understand it.

About MS buying their way to success, they done a price war with X360 against PS3 and weren't able to prevent it from losing, they have been cheaper than PS4 as well for the entire gen except the first 6 months. MS can use as much money as they want, that isn't going to make they win "the war".

Sony may buy even EA and MS reply by buying Activision and that would still not make MS win. If buying "all their competition" would make MS win the war and make a lot of money they would have done it already.

Mate, what a childish response. 

Are you another one of those who think results happen instantly? MS buying Studios is one thing which has only been happening recently, but having a tug of war match with a corporation multiple times bigger than the company willing to have a buy out war with is suicide, its basic logic. But you seem to think differently and like to compare the RROD money spending to buying companies.. could you grasp at any more straws to try to win your argument? Or do you like to spin the topic in so many directions that it puts the other readers off? This is about buying companies, nothing to do with money invested for maintenance issues and RnD funding in previous generations. What we are seeing from Xbox is recently new with the amount of studios they have brought and they haven't stopped there. They are on a money spree atm and that's something they can easily afford to do, so can Sony and Nintendo to an extent.

Another spin of yours but ill answer it for the 100s time with you, Last time I checked the 360 made more money than the PS3, so for you to consider the 360 a loss to the PS3, I think you need to take off your glasses off and do some actual research for a change. 360 sold more software, 1st party games sold more, cost less to make and had Live subscription income which the PS3 didn't. Oh but you would say the PS3 won because it sold 2m more units than the 360.. what a joke but I guess I expect nothing more from you. PS3 almost killed Sony at the time but I guess its business success is blinded by that 2m more sales.

Now back on track, stop comparing unrelated events and issues to buying out companies. Its quite clear the company with the most money will majority of the time win that battle. If Sony goes out and buys Rockstar or Zenimax, than that could trigger MS and Google to buy even more studios and brands and unlike Sony, they can easily not stop there.

Also buying out the competition isn't how businesses work, unless they see it as a incredible deal and the profit is easy to obtain back. MS doesn't need to buy out the whole competition to succeed and make profits with Xbox, however if they are pushed by lets say Sony who go deep with there wallets than MS will only go deeper in there wallets and that's something Sony cannot compete with. If you refuse to believe that than you don't understand how money works. The bigger the wallet the more power you have. 

I hope I cleared that up for you.

Yes by this time I should know better than to reply to you. Yes you are right sure.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Azzanation said:

You mean the money MS hasn't spent yet? How can I compare on what happen generations ago when it didn't happen? Were there buy out wars in the last 3 generations I wasn't aware of? Please explain. 

Yes, sure the money MS burned on Xbox original (some claim 5B) and RROD (3B) were pocket change and MS didn't spent any. But every gen we get MS fans to claim MS will use their money to buy the win in that gen, never happened, never will.

Was that Xbox users that still post here? Or is this more of the nonsense where Xbox users on this community have to hear nonsense about and answer to what other Xbox people supposedly maybe said years ago potentially probably on this Youtube video or maybe probably on twitter LOL

All he said was in a spending war, Sony would lose. Which is just factual and plain common sense, not implying that it's likely or has been going on for decades as you try to spin and grasp at straws.



LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes, sure the money MS burned on Xbox original (some claim 5B) and RROD (3B) were pocket change and MS didn't spent any. But every gen we get MS fans to claim MS will use their money to buy the win in that gen, never happened, never will.

Was that Xbox users that still post here? Or is this more of the nonsense where Xbox users on this community have to hear nonsense about and answer to what other Xbox people supposedly maybe said years ago potentially probably on this Youtube video or maybe probably on twitter LOL

All he said was in a spending war, Sony would lose. Which is just factual and plain common sense, not implying that it's likely or has been going on for decades as you try to spin and grasp at straws.

No, what he said is that if Sony decided to buy Zenimax (doesn't matter that MS already bought plenty of studios and want to buy more) MS would retaliate and Sony wouldn't want that.

I dunno if the most profilic poster of MS would win a gen by outspending Sony (by the means of subsiding X1) is still here, been a long time since I saw it. But we have seem posts like this on the rumor discussions, of how MS would warranty they had a more powerful console, that they would use their money to ensure their console would be cheaper, and that Sony can't compete if MS do this or that. But again never happened, never will, because that money spent to war wouldn't bring profits, otherwise MS would already done that before.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Azzanation said:

Mate, what a childish response. 

Pot, kettle, black.



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shikamaru317 said:
This seems highly unlikely to me. Zenimax is worth several billion dollars for starters.

Also by owning Zenimax, Sony would own Bethesda... And who wants to pay to own cancer, right?

I suppose one could argue that if Sony owns them, they can change them into a decent company and be done with their shady business practices in regards to games like Fallout 76 but yeah, I don't know.

At the end of the day if Sony has billions to spend in acquisitions, there are far better options (Bluepoint, From Software, Platinum Games,  Deck 13, Housemarque and so many more...).



CrazyGamer2017 said:
shikamaru317 said:
This seems highly unlikely to me. Zenimax is worth several billion dollars for starters.

Also by owning Zenimax, Sony would own Bethesda... And who wants to pay to own cancer, right?

I suppose one could argue that if Sony owns them, they can change them into a decent company and be done with their shady business practices in regards to games like Fallout 76 but yeah, I don't know.

At the end of the day if Sony has billions to spend in acquisitions, there are far better options (Bluepoint, From Software, Platinum Games,  Deck 13, Housemarque and so many more...).

That's the best analogy of this rumor I've heard yet.



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DonFerrari said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Was that Xbox users that still post here? Or is this more of the nonsense where Xbox users on this community have to hear nonsense about and answer to what other Xbox people supposedly maybe said years ago potentially probably on this Youtube video or maybe probably on twitter LOL

All he said was in a spending war, Sony would lose. Which is just factual and plain common sense, not implying that it's likely or has been going on for decades as you try to spin and grasp at straws.

No, what he said is that if Sony decided to buy Zenimax (doesn't matter that MS already bought plenty of studios and want to buy more) MS would retaliate and Sony wouldn't want that.

I dunno if the most profilic poster of MS would win a gen by outspending Sony (by the means of subsiding X1) is still here, been a long time since I saw it. But we have seem posts like this on the rumor discussions, of how MS would warranty they had a more powerful console, that they would use their money to ensure their console would be cheaper, and that Sony can't compete if MS do this or that. But again never happened, never will, because that money spent to war wouldn't bring profits, otherwise MS would already done that before.

LudicrousSpeed has hit the nail on the head with my post and understands  exactly what i mean. For some reason you either misunderstand my posts or choose to spin it in multiple directions to make yourself look right. 

The Topic was clearly about a buy out war between Sony and MS, you brought in PS3 vs 360 last gen and money spent in RROD etc. I still scratch my head to why you brought that up.

MS and Sony havnt had a bidding war with brands and i am not sure why last 3 generations have anything to do with who will win a buy out war between a corp and a mega corp. 

And FYI, my post never meant who's going to win a generation based on console sales, it meant who will win a buy out war when it comes to buying brands.

Last edited by Azzanation - on 09 January 2020

I'd love to see Sony buy them. My brother's a huge Bethesda fan and he would hate to have to buy a Sony console.



Hehehe, reading some of these comments is juicy stuff.