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Jumpin on 20 November 2019
trunkswd said:
Amnesia said:

With every last adjustments considered here, the Switch has this situation now for Q3 :

If the same pace could keep going until Dec 31th, the Q3 would have a total of ~13,9 millions, which could have been possible with Animal crossing fitting the gap in December. This makes me wonder if they have not decided to extend the momentum by delaying AC just to avoid a too huge spike in FY2020 Q3 and remain with nothing else for the next 6-9 months.

The gap between 2018 and 2019 will shrink for week ending November 23 due to Black Friday being a week later this year. AC coming out in 2020 helps spread out the heavy hitters for the Switch. 

The primary reason I’d say Nintendo put it there was not to spread it out from Pokemon, but rather Animal Crossing: New Horizons, right now, looks like it’s more meant to be the one thing in the giant gap of the first half of 2020 since it is coming out at the end of March. They might get Xenoblade Chronicles DE in that time period to help fill it in, though. Hopefully another surprise or two pop up.



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kazuyamishima on 20 November 2019

Interesting, only 9.8% growth compared to last year even if the system was selling at $199/299 this year compared to $299/399 last year on the pokemon release week.



The_Liquid_Laser on 20 November 2019

717k for Switch is bananas, especially since it sold 653k last year when Pokemon Let's Go Launched. Usually one would expect diminishing returns on hardware sales when the second game of the franchise launches on the same system. Instead sales went up. People are complaining all over the internet about Sword/Shield and yet it is still going to sell a crapton. Pokemon Let's Go sold 10M by the end of the year 2018. Sword/Shield should be able to pass that number, and will likely have better legs.



curl-6 bet me that PS5 + X|S sales would reach 56m before year end 2023 and he was right.
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The_Liquid_Laser on 20 November 2019
trunkswd said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
717k for Switch is bananas, especially since it sold 653k last year when Pokemon Let's Go Launched. Usually one would expect diminishing returns on hardware sales when the second game of the franchise launches on the same system. Instead sales went up. People are complaining all over the internet about Sword/Shield and yet it is still going to sell a crapton. Pokemon Let's Go sold 10M by the end of the year 2018. Sword/Shield should be able to pass that number, and will likely have better legs.

Let's Go not being a core game and no Switch Lite a year ago is why sales are up a bit year-over-year. First game from a new Pokemon gen has people excited, despite the controversies. 

Yeah, I agree.  Pokemon Let's Go was viewed as an appetizer, while Sword/Shield is the main course.  A lot of Pokemon fans bought a Switch for the appetizer, but I think this data is telling us that even more held back for the main course.  Obviously the Lite model helped with that.  On top of that I recall Let's Go shipping 10m in it's first quarter.  That is one hell of an appetizer.  Just imagine how much the main course will ship.

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curl-6 bet me that PS5 + X|S sales would reach 56m before year end 2023 and he was right.
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My Threads:
Master Thread, Game of the Year/Decade
Switch Will Be #1 All Time
Zelda Will Outsell Mario (Achieved)
How Much Will MH Rise sell?
My Bet With Metallox

Agente42 on 20 November 2019
kazuyamishima said:
Interesting, only 9.8% growth compared to last year even if the system was selling at $199/299 this year compared to $299/399 last year on the pokemon release week.

When Nintendo Switch was selling for 399?

The initial price is 299. Nintendo Switch won't have any price cut.

Switch lite is a capped version, is not a price cut. Lite don't have tablet or TV mode. 



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Dulfite on 20 November 2019
kazuyamishima said:
Interesting, only 9.8% growth compared to last year even if the system was selling at $199/299 this year compared to $299/399 last year on the pokemon release week.

Uh, no?

The standard one has always been $299. This year has an option for a $199 version, but only for part of the year and the main game the Lite will be sold on JUST came out. Give it time. That 9.8% growth gap is going to explode in the next few months in my opinion.



kazuyamishima on 20 November 2019
Dulfite said:
kazuyamishima said:
Interesting, only 9.8% growth compared to last year even if the system was selling at $199/299 this year compared to $299/399 last year on the pokemon release week.

Uh, no?

The standard one has always been $299. This year has an option for a $199 version, but only for part of the year and the main game the Lite will be sold on JUST came out. Give it time. That 9.8% growth gap is going to explode in the next few months in my opinion.

The let’s go bundle was $399. And I was referring to the same week that let’s go launched. Of course it will see an increase in the upcoming weeks.



Dulfite on 20 November 2019
kazuyamishima said:
Dulfite said:

Uh, no?

The standard one has always been $299. This year has an option for a $199 version, but only for part of the year and the main game the Lite will be sold on JUST came out. Give it time. That 9.8% growth gap is going to explode in the next few months in my opinion.

The let’s go bundle was $399. And I was referring to the same week that let’s go launched. Of course it will see an increase in the upcoming weeks.

The Let's Go Bundle was $100 more than the standard console even though it is a $60 game? I'm confused if that was the case.



StarDoor on 20 November 2019
kazuyamishima said:
Dulfite said:

Uh, no?

The standard one has always been $299. This year has an option for a $199 version, but only for part of the year and the main game the Lite will be sold on JUST came out. Give it time. That 9.8% growth gap is going to explode in the next few months in my opinion.

The let’s go bundle was $399. And I was referring to the same week that let’s go launched. Of course it will see an increase in the upcoming weeks.

Wow, PS4 is down an abysmal 45% from the same week last year. I guess its sales are collapsing.

Oh wait, Black Friday is one week later this year, so that comparison makes no sense. Let's Go released one week before Black Friday, Sword and Shield released two weeks before. Obviously the week closer to Black Friday has an advantage in sales.



curl-6 on 20 November 2019

Kaboom.

So much for the notion that Pokemon players already bought a Switch for Let's Go and that as a result the first core Pokemon on Switch wouldn't be a system seller.

More than 7 Switches sold this week for every Xbox One and more than 2 for every PS4.