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Microsoft is not a beast when it comes to software sales at all which is why they don't report software sales, only number of players which is skewed by dollar game pass subscriptions.



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Blood_Tears said:
Microsoft is not a beast when it comes to software sales at all which is why they don't report software sales, only number of players which is skewed by dollar game pass subscriptions.

yeah. Some of the third parties and almost every indie publisher find better sales on Switch. 



Blood_Tears said:
Microsoft is not a beast when it comes to software sales at all which is why they don't report software sales, only number of players which is skewed by dollar game pass subscriptions.

You must be living in a different universe or alternate world then all X Box consoles have been beasts when it comes to software sales. 

http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/Tie-Ratio/Global/



Agente42 said:
Blood_Tears said:
Microsoft is not a beast when it comes to software sales at all which is why they don't report software sales, only number of players which is skewed by dollar game pass subscriptions.

yeah. Some of the third parties and almost every indie publisher find better sales on Switch. 

I highly doubt that, third party support is still lacking overall on the Switch.  Nintendo is great when it comes to first party sales but that was the case already when they still had third party support from everyone in the NES and SNES era.



Based on what?
Who knows the actual numbers, without shipments it's pretty hard to tell.



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Chris Hu said:
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Its probably pretty close. It's bad, but not wiiu or vita levels of bad.

Its still a beast when it comes to software sales and that is what really matters since consoles are usually sold at a loss.

Selling hardware inherently improves software sales, if software sales are what really matters, then selling hardware is what really matters too. You can't sell software without selling hardware. Which is why XBO software sales are less than half of PS4's.

VGC software figures for end of 2018 are 652m for PS4 and 295.5m for XBO.

Can't use official figures for Xbox because Microsoft don't give out figures that make them look worse.

You can't be a software beast when you have a low install base.



Agente42 said:
Blood_Tears said:
Microsoft is not a beast when it comes to software sales at all which is why they don't report software sales, only number of players which is skewed by dollar game pass subscriptions.

yeah. Some of the third parties and almost every indie publisher find better sales on Switch. 

I'd be very surprised if you can name me a third party game that does better on Switch, that isn't Japanese anyway. Performance of games like Fifa and Wolfenstein is abysmal by comparison to Xbox and PlayStation.

Indies do have success on Switch though.



Barkley said:
Chris Hu said:

Its still a beast when it comes to software sales and that is what really matters since consoles are usually sold at a loss.

Selling hardware inherently improves software sales, if software sales are what really matters, then selling hardware is what really matters too. You can't sell software without selling hardware. Which is why XBO software sales are less than half of PS4's.

VGC software figures for end of 2018 are 652m for PS4 and 295.5m for XBO.

Can't use official figures for Xbox because Microsoft don't give out figures that make them look worse.

You can't be a software beast when you have a low install base.

40 million plus consoles is not a low install base.



The Crash N Sane Trilogy, I believe sold better on Switch than Xbox One.



Hardware Comparison Threads:

PlayStation 4/Xbox One/Nintendo Switch: 2019 vs. 2020
(https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread/241660/ps4xbons-2019-vs-2020/1/)

Chris Hu said:
Barkley said:

Selling hardware inherently improves software sales, if software sales are what really matters, then selling hardware is what really matters too. You can't sell software without selling hardware. Which is why XBO software sales are less than half of PS4's.

VGC software figures for end of 2018 are 652m for PS4 and 295.5m for XBO.

Can't use official figures for Xbox because Microsoft don't give out figures that make them look worse.

You can't be a software beast when you have a low install base.

40 million plus consoles is not a low install base.

That depends on perspective. Relatively it is low. It's half their previous console, the average PlayStation home console sells 112m and it's one of 3 current video game systems on the market that is going to be outsold 2:1 by both of the others.

Whether you compare it to it's peers or it's predecessor, it's low.