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Azzanation on 25 September 2019

This is one game I cannot wait to play. We need more Gears and TLOU type of games mixing gore and horror into great combat survival action games. Definitely sooner than expected.



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Summerset on 25 September 2019

Why do so many assume that Joel's dead? Because of the revenge plot?



Barkley on 25 September 2019
Summerset said:
Why do so many assume that Joel's dead? Because of the revenge plot?

No idea, from this trailer it seems pretty obvious who the revenge plot is actually about, assuming that isn't misdirection. I'm pretty certain Joel isn't dead lol.



Summerset on 25 September 2019

But I feel like the plot twist might be something like this:

*Potential spoilers*

At some point early-ish in the game, Elly will lose someone close to her. Probably her girlfriend. Perhaps when we see someone getting shot in the new trailer while Elly is held down by some thugs.



Elly will then go into her "I'm going to kill every last one of them" phase, and we'll assume she is talking about her dead girlfriend. She'll team up with Joel to take down the enemy.

But then later on in the game it'll be revealed that Joel was killed a long time ago. Perhaps during a crucial moment where we think Joel is with her and can help her, but turns out he's actually not there, and can't help. And that the scene where Elly said she was going to "kill every last one of them" was actually a flashback that happened before her girlfriend got killed. And that she was referring to Joel's death.

This is probably too specific to be accurate, but something along those lines.

I thought they just haven't seen each other in a while...maybe she cut ties with him, because she found out, what really happend at the end of the first part.

It's an interesting theory, but i think he's alive. Mostly because he interacts physically with her in the trailer and there's bit where Elly sits on the passenger seat (and gets attacked) while presumably some else is driving. The second "evidence" is a far stretch, but i'd put my money on Joel.



Jpcc86 on 25 September 2019

Joel being dead/Or dying early on in the game would be such a cliche that I dont think Naughty Dog would do it. Hopefully he is just gonna be sidelined to give Ellie the full focus.

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0D0 on 25 September 2019

I've just pre-ordered. :) Can't wait for Feb, Mar, Apr. It's going to be a fun winter.



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EricHiggin on 25 September 2019
Sarkar said:
EricHiggin said:

This makes me think either PS5 is coming well before Nov 2020, or that a Nov 2020 launch is going to have sufficient new first party titles and won't really require relying on games like TLOU2 to push early sales.

The new trailer looks sooo darn good and leaves me wanting more. A lengthy, well written, in depth story is exactly what I needed to hear.

Why is this even a thing? The games Sony has announced for PS4 are for the PS4, you'll be able to play them on PS5 through BC but Sony's not gonna use these to sell PS5s.

Horizon Zero Dawn came out in early 2017, when PS5 comes out next year it will have been almost 4 years, GG can certainly have a sequel ready in that time if they made the first one in 5 years. Not to mention by all accounts the next gen consoles are helping cutdown on development time.

Then Gran Turismo 7 should also be good to go. A title from Studio Japan. Perhaps the Demon's Souls remake by Bluepoint. I think those 4 at or during the launch window as in from November 2020- Early 2021 would be a pretty good launch without having to rely on PS4 games.

So you agree with the either or the or, or both? I'd like to ask why this is even a thing but...



sergiodaly on 25 September 2019

really happy about the launch date, but i now feel like if could go back in time and not see that trailer, i would do it...



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KLXVER on 25 September 2019

Joel might be dead, but Ellie just doesn't seem like the type going insane with grief and seeing dead people. I just think that seems a bit out of character for her.



EricHiggin on 25 September 2019
Summerset said:

But I feel like the plot twist might be something like this:

*Potential spoilers*

At some point early-ish in the game, Elly will lose someone close to her. Probably her girlfriend. Perhaps when we see someone getting shot in the new trailer while Elly is held down by some thugs.



Elly will then go into her "I'm going to kill every last one of them" phase, and we'll assume she is talking about her dead girlfriend. She'll team up with Joel to take down the enemy.

But then later on in the game it'll be revealed that Joel was killed a long time ago. Perhaps during a crucial moment where we think Joel is with her and can help her, but turns out he's actually not there, and can't help. And that the scene where Elly said she was going to "kill every last one of them" was actually a flashback that happened before her girlfriend got killed. And that she was referring to Joel's death.

This is probably too specific to be accurate, but something along those lines.

I thought they just haven't seen each other in a while...maybe she cut ties with him, because she found out, what really happend at the end of the first part.

It's an interesting theory, but i think he's alive. Mostly because he interacts physically with her in the trailer and there's bit where Elly sits on the passenger seat (and gets attacked) while presumably some else is driving. The second "evidence" is a far stretch, but i'd put my money on Joel.
Jpcc86 said:

Joel being dead/Or dying early on in the game would be such a cliche that I dont think Naughty Dog would do it. Hopefully he is just gonna be sidelined to give Ellie the full focus.

Much of this sounds quite reasonable.

Have Ellie find out about the truth one way or another. Either she tells Joel to beat it, or he leaves on his own accord but not because he wants to. He can still keep tabs on her, but from a distance where he won't directly interfere with her life. Then have Joel finally catch up half way through, maybe two thirds, but have him help her finish what she set out to accomplish. She's probably super pissed, and isn't thinking all that rationally. She's out for blood and likely needs balance. Having Joel show up when the task finally seems impossible because she hasn't taken the time to think things through would make sense. This way she isn't overshadowed and can shine and grow all game long and remains the focal point throughout the entire game.

*This would also allow for some redemption on Joel's part from Ellie's viewpoint.

Last edited by EricHiggin - on 25 September 2019