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mZuzek said:

"Prove me wrong" is a phrase awfully commonly used by people who don't want to be proved wrong at all.

Look, Bloodborne isn't for everyone. If you didn't like it, that's fine. You didn't like it. I'd agree the bosses are kinda whatever, they feel too much like HP sponges and there's hardly any real strategy you have to learn and adapt to in any of the game's bosses, but... the game isn't a boss rush for a reason. (edit: never mind this, my brain was thinking of Bloodstained instead of Bloodborne lol. I don't like From Software games, anyway).

I know this is off topic, but hey, you did happen to bring up another game i played recently...... So what was your overall take on Bloodstained ROTN? i thought it was excellent, and would happily give it a solid 9/10.



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Ronster316 said:
mZuzek said:

"Prove me wrong" is a phrase awfully commonly used by people who don't want to be proved wrong at all.

Look, Bloodborne isn't for everyone. If you didn't like it, that's fine. You didn't like it. I'd agree the bosses are kinda whatever, they feel too much like HP sponges and there's hardly any real strategy you have to learn and adapt to in any of the game's bosses, but... the game isn't a boss rush for a reason. (edit: never mind this, my brain was thinking of Bloodstained instead of Bloodborne lol. I don't like From Software games, anyway).

I know this is off topic, but hey, you did happen to bring up another game i played recently...... So what was your overall take on Bloodstained ROTN? i thought it was excellent, and would happily give it a solid 9/10.

Really good, I was always having fun when playing it, but for some reason it really hasn't left a lasting impression on me at all. It was a game I played, and over time I just kinda forgot about it. I mean, I remember the game - I remember the characters, the story, the areas, the music and all that, it's just... I don't know, it wasn't too memorable I guess. 8/10 I'd say.



DialgaMarine said:
Ronster316 said:

I'm reformed, a new man, Microsoft are garbage now, both in and out of the gaming world, i'll be honest, i DESPISED sony for taking my beloved SEGA out of the console business. but times change, folks change, Sony are the bees  knees  now, microsoft are rotten to the core, pandering ball bags, no matter how hard western sony try fucking up our gaming fun, sony JAPAN will always be there to pick up the pieces. Microsoft went SOY...... good riddance...!!!!!

Western Sony? You mean the studios that brought us masterpiece franchises like God of War, Uncharted, TLoU, Ratchet & Clank, Resistance, Killzone, Horizon, and countless more? They’re garbage and ruining fun? I think you need to stick with MS my dude. 

You listed some good games, however, from a gameplay perspective, the first game you mention there, God of War, i have always rated DMC, Boyonetta, Onimusha, Ninja Gaiden etc as far more satisfying hack 'n' slash gameplay experiences. Hence, for me, Japanese studios do superior games "gameplay" wise, now story wise, that's a debate for another day.

Uncharted i like, TLoU i will be playing soon on PS Now so i can't comment. Ratchet and clank i never rated, there;s 100 FPS's out there that are better than Resistance and Killzone, and Horizon i'm also just about to start. I guess what i am saying is, if i had to pick between Western and Japanese games, Japanese games get my vote all day and night.



mZuzek said:
Ronster316 said:

I know this is off topic, but hey, you did happen to bring up another game i played recently...... So what was your overall take on Bloodstained ROTN? i thought it was excellent, and would happily give it a solid 9/10.

Really good, I was always having fun when playing it, but for some reason it really hasn't left a lasting impression on me at all. It was a game I played, and over time I just kinda forgot about it. I mean, I remember the game - I remember the characters, the story, the areas, the music and all that, it's just... I don't know, it wasn't too memorable I guess. 8/10 I'd say.

True, now that i have finished it, i can't see myself going back to it anytime soon, but for the 20 hours i was playing it, i was engrossed for the most part. 9/10 is perhaps my current take on it, but yes, as time passes, i am finding myself forgetting about it, i sense in 6 months time my score will drop a tad to about an 8.5/10.



Fei-Hung said:
Three very different games:

1) bloodborne is like a faster, more aggressive souls game which means it will have better level design, lore, world building and story telling than the other games.

2) Nioh is far more technical when it comes to combat, has some level design elements, deeper rpj elements and is more combat focused.

3) NG is more reflex orientated combat, with a more linear level design that has a mix of old skool with new skool game design. Fight through linear stages then face a boss.

All three games can be appreciated for their own identity, and each has its own identity, although they may borrow elements of each other.

I'm just glad I got to enjoy all three of them.

Can't say much Fairer than that, with all 3 franchises out there in the world, the biggest winners out there are us the gamers.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:

I found Bloodborne to be really disappointing.  It seems like it is trying to be an action game using Dark Souls' mechanics.  Dark Souls' is an awesome RPG, but a terrible pure action game.  Then take all of the choices and freedom away from Dark Souls and you get Bloodborne.

Ninja Gaiden really is an action game.  Never played Nioh.  But if I wanted an action game, then Ninja Gaiden would be a better option.

Last reply before i return to work for a while......... When i finish Bloodborne, i'm going to play Dark Souls 3 next, looks like i'm going to end up doing the souls games in reverse order of their release. in terms of pace, which of the 4 souls games (Demon's souls included too of course) is shall i say.... speedier gameplay and tempo wise? were Demons Souls and Dark Souls 1 the pinnacle of this franchise?



Azuren said:
Literally the best boss in video games is in Bloodborne (Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower), so your argument is invalid.

I love that bossfight so fucking much... best one in the series in my opinion.

Double Wielding into blood magic into fire and speed dashing through attacks... all combined with the majestic stage and the elegance of Maria (from the way she looks to the way she moves and fights...), and that effing soundtrack.



Not a fan of ninja gaiden, nioh was easier than bloodbourne, and not as interesting.



meh, I tried to play the Ninja Gaiden games, but they are way too hard for me, so I quit early on and never tried again

Bloodborne is certainly easier and less technical than that and I appreciate it. Still, going from turtle-styling in DeS/DS to BB was quite tough, but it did work out for me and the only Boss that really game me trouble for many hours was defiled Amygdala.



Ronster316 said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

I found Bloodborne to be really disappointing.  It seems like it is trying to be an action game using Dark Souls' mechanics.  Dark Souls' is an awesome RPG, but a terrible pure action game.  Then take all of the choices and freedom away from Dark Souls and you get Bloodborne.

Ninja Gaiden really is an action game.  Never played Nioh.  But if I wanted an action game, then Ninja Gaiden would be a better option.

Last reply before i return to work for a while......... When i finish Bloodborne, i'm going to play Dark Souls 3 next, looks like i'm going to end up doing the souls games in reverse order of their release. in terms of pace, which of the 4 souls games (Demon's souls included too of course) is shall i say.... speedier gameplay and tempo wise? were Demons Souls and Dark Souls 1 the pinnacle of this franchise?

In terms of speed of gameplay:

Souls 3>Souls 1>Demon>Souls 2

I played 2, than 3, than 1 and finally Demon.  Most everybody holds Demon and 1 as the pinnacle.  But I do not agree.  Souls 3 is easily the best.  I think Souls 1 and Demon have a bunch of nostalgia tied to them.  Most also hate 2, while it is my least favorite, I still loved it.  

In terms of quality:

3>1>Demon>2

Just my experience, with at least 100 hours into each.