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Nobody is finishing bloodborne in 5 hours via their first play.



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Ronster316 said:
RaptorChrist said:
Hm, it's fine to like NInja Gaiden more than Bloodborne, but I don't know how a fan of Ninja Gaiden could think Bloodborne is a shallow, wannabe, hack 'n slash game. Are you getting frustrated with a certain boss or certain area of the game and taking your anger out by making this thread, or do you just truly not like Bloodborne? How are the mechanics not good? The rally system for gaining back health is rewarding and the combat is fast-paced what with it's generally aggressive bosses. What's your thoughts of Dark Souls? If you like Ninja Gaiden and think Bloodborne is trash, then I can't help but be skeptical about how that's the case.

I've played through Bloodborne twice now, and both times were amazing. I enjoy traditional Souls games more, as they have deeper RPG mechanics, with a better gear system, an added weight system, and more weapon variety, but Bloodborne intentionally strayed away from that in the hopes of establishing itself as it's own game. It turned out to still be very similar to a Souls game, but I'm happy about that, as I can't seem to get enough of FromSoft's Soulsborne games.

Fast paced? when you walk, my 90 year old grandad can walk faster, and when you run or Dodge, a 73 year old Sylvester stallone has faster reactions, its not about how frustrating or not the bosses are, its about how reverse gear slow this game is.

So a 0/10, worst game ever? I'm gonna have to assume you are getting frustrated against a certain boss and by insulting the game you are making yourself feel better about it. Otherwise why would I take the time to post in your thread with a politely crafted post where I tried to gain insight into why you might not like the game, and why would you respond to that polite post with a sarcastic remark about how fast your grandma is. If you are so frustrated that you can't compose yourself enough to have a conversation about it, then why bother.



Chrkeller said:
Nobody is finishing bloodborne in 5 hours via their first play.

Yeah, no doubt this is a troll thread, and I'm ashamed of myself for giving him the benefit of the doubt and allowing him to explain himself. I suppose if he did beat this in five hours he could share his PSN info with us and we could look at the timestamps on his trophies, but this is so without-a-doubt a lie.



Ronster316 said:
5 hour campaign too when you know how this game works? hardly value for money.

5 hours lol, my save had 127 hours on it. 3 different endings, pvp and chalice dungeons all add alot of value. You would have to be a speed runner to beat it in 5 hours 🤣



trasharmdsister12 said:
I think something people misunderstand about FROM games is that they aren't hard because they're cheap. They're hard because they're obtuse and that can be good or bad. FROM's Souls-like games aren't designed with the typical game design we've become accustomed to in other games (rule of 3, standard obvious path, item names hinting at their purpose, grinding for levels/resources being a bigger factor in your progress, etc.) and so people have a hard time with them; myself included at first. But I've found a lot of joy in jumping into these games and learning how they work because it forces me to do things that I don't have to do much of in other games. That sense of learning and exploration excites some gamers, while the burden of having to learn it all while it hides itself away turns other gamers away.

In addition, the combat itself is not a spectacle to behold. You aren't doing massive combos. It's very technical and basic. The mechanics are hard to come to terms to while being as simple as two attack buttons. In Bloodborne's case in particular, the atmosphere wasn't my cup of tea. I much prefer Dark Souls 3's aesthetic, combat, story, and music.

At the end of it all. it's not my job or anyone elses' to convince anyone to like it. You are totally entitled to your own opinion and it's fine you don't like it. I played it and enjoyed it enough and felt the game got easier once I came to terms with the mechanics through the Father Gascoigne fight. I beat the majority of bosses after him within 3 tries and the final boss on my first. I'd even say I also loved NG1 and NG2 more than Bloodborne, but the appeal of Bloodborne definitely didn't pass me by and I'd definitely say its sister series in Dark Souls is one of my favourites in all of gaming. Just wanted to share my thoughts on why you possibly didn't like it as much as others have.

Engaging post, you make many valid points, i did get a sense of getting lost a lot, i know its slower than your typical hack 'n' slash, and yes, slaying one of those BIG bosses is undoubtedly rewarding, Nioh got me in to the "more RPG type" hack and slashers, the setting of bloodbourne is SUPERB, getting lost doesnt bother me either, i guess overall, i was hoping for more sleeker and faster gameplay with bosses that truly enthralled me, but for someone who works 12 hours a day including a 3 hour round trip, its not connected with me fully. i bought Dark souls 3 recently, but when i will start it, i dont know if i will be able to commit to it, time is precious afterall. appreciate your detailed input



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think-man said:
Ronster316 said:
5 hour campaign too when you know how this game works? hardly value for money.

5 hours lol, my save had 127 hours on it. 3 different endings, pvp and chalice dungeons all add alot of value. You would have to be a speed runner to beat it in 5 hours 🤣

Someone beat bloodbourne 34 minutes, fastest Nioh time i saw was 1 hour 30....... its all about content.



>slow controls/gameplay

What weapons have you tried?

>bosses that are more tedious than technical,

I don't particularly find them tedious. Most of them are too short.



the-pi-guy said:
>slow controls/gameplay

What weapons have you tried?

>bosses that are more tedious than technical,

I don't particularly find them tedious. Most of them are too short.

Perhaps its because im nearly 4 years too late to the party with Bloodbourne, where as im only 2 years late to the Nioh party, i love my hack n slash games, and intend on going back to beat NG2 on way of the master ninja, (way of the mentor was a toughie) as for weapons, im still using the sword and that german sounding gun, i'm sure heres many more weapons and guns, but a dying online community, pesky invaders stealing my echos and more, has just left me a bit.... unfulfilled.



Ronster316 said:

Perhaps its because im nearly 4 years too late to the party with Bloodbourne, where as im only 2 years late to the Nioh party, i love my hack n slash games, and intend on going back to beat NG2 on way of the master ninja, (way of the mentor was a toughie) as for weapons, im still using the sword and that german sounding gun, i'm sure heres many more weapons and guns, but a dying online community, pesky invaders stealing my echos and more, has just left me a bit.... unfulfilled.

Just asking because different weapons play at different speeds.  

I always play offline, so I don't know how it works online.  



the-pi-guy said:
Ronster316 said:

Perhaps its because im nearly 4 years too late to the party with Bloodbourne, where as im only 2 years late to the Nioh party, i love my hack n slash games, and intend on going back to beat NG2 on way of the master ninja, (way of the mentor was a toughie) as for weapons, im still using the sword and that german sounding gun, i'm sure heres many more weapons and guns, but a dying online community, pesky invaders stealing my echos and more, has just left me a bit.... unfulfilled.

Just asking because different weapons play at different speeds.  

I always play offline, so I don't know how it works online.  

That starting weapon seems fine, that kinda cleaver that expands, i then got a sword with  poor range, i dont know, i have seen people using axes that seem to have a 30 foot range using the R2 spam, i praise the games merits, i just don't see it as a tidy package overall.