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Is stadia going to fail? (not be competitive, profitable?)

yes - (people wont pay for 4k subscription) 42 77.78%
 
no - (people want to stre... 12 22.22%
 
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RolStoppable said:
potato_hamster said:

No, my point is is that there isn't close to enough information out there about the PS5 or Google Stadia to actually make a comparison between the two and doing is is ridiculous. We know hardly anything about the PS5 or Xbox Scarlett outside of some ballpark performance indicators, but here you are confidently saying that Google Stadia will be cheaper to own?

That's completely nonsensical.

If that was your point, you'd have responded to the OP of this thread.

Also, I am not saying that Stadia will be cheaper to own; there's nothing to own, after all. What I am saying is that price won't be an obstacle for Stadia, unlike what the OP suggested.

Let's see... how many times did the OP mention PS5? 0
how many times did the OP mention Xbox Scarlet? 0

The OP said "Most physical consoles". You're the one that made the leap to PS5/Xbox Scarlett, so why would I reply to the OP when the point refers specifically and most appropriately to you. But I'm sure you've already decided that this is just another example of me targeting you, even though the only basis for that is imagined.





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potato_hamster said:
RolStoppable said:

If that was your point, you'd have responded to the OP of this thread.

Also, I am not saying that Stadia will be cheaper to own; there's nothing to own, after all. What I am saying is that price won't be an obstacle for Stadia, unlike what the OP suggested.

Let's see... how many times did the OP mention PS5? 0
how many times did the OP mention Xbox Scarlet? 0

The OP said "Most physical consoles". You're the one that made the leap to PS5/Xbox Scarlett

Yes, the OP's point was to compare the value of Stadia to the value of owning a Sega Saturn. Because that's where the competition is. PS5/Scarlett definitely weren't on his mind. 



potato_hamster said:
RolStoppable said:

If that was your point, you'd have responded to the OP of this thread.

Also, I am not saying that Stadia will be cheaper to own; there's nothing to own, after all. What I am saying is that price won't be an obstacle for Stadia, unlike what the OP suggested.

Let's see... how many times did the OP mention PS5? 0
how many times did the OP mention Xbox Scarlet? 0

The OP said "Most physical consoles". You're the one that made the leap to PS5/Xbox Scarlett, so why would I reply to the OP when the point refers specifically and most appropriately to you. But I'm sure you've already decided that this is just another example of me targeting you, even though the only basis for that is imagined.

Right, in a thread where everybody understands that the comparison is between Stadia and the upcoming Sony and Microsoft consoles, I am supposedly irrational for making a comparison between Stadia, the PS5 and Scarlett.



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Barkley said:
potato_hamster said:

It would be the first playstation console that requires an internet connection to play a game, but you're right I do not know the PS5 will not. We really don't know much of anything about the PS5 though, do we? Yet here we are sorting out the cost of owning one because that makes sense.

The thread compares the value of Stadia vs the value of a traditional console. Of course we're speculating the cost of owning a console. Without speculating there is nothing to discuss and this thread wouldn't exist.

If only there were some other consoles on the market we could make comparisons to instead of making assumptions... That's just too bad that the only thing we have to go by are consoles that we don't even know the names of.



potato_hamster said:
Barkley said:

The thread compares the value of Stadia vs the value of a traditional console. Of course we're speculating the cost of owning a console. Without speculating there is nothing to discuss and this thread wouldn't exist.

If only there were some other consoles on the market we could make comparisons to instead of making assumptions... That's just too bad that the only thing we have to go by are consoles that we don't even know the names of.

Well we could compare them to current consoles, but then Stadia has an overwhelming advantage of being 4 times the power of a standard PS4/XBO and completely free at the same resolution. Wow that's an even bigger win for Stadia than comparing it to nextgen. Probably not the result you were looking for.



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RolStoppable said:
potato_hamster said:

Let's see... how many times did the OP mention PS5? 0
how many times did the OP mention Xbox Scarlet? 0

The OP said "Most physical consoles". You're the one that made the leap to PS5/Xbox Scarlett, so why would I reply to the OP when the point refers specifically and most appropriately to you. But I'm sure you've already decided that this is just another example of me targeting you, even though the only basis for that is imagined.

Right, in a thread where everybody understands that the comparison is between Stadia and the upcoming Sony and Microsoft consoles, I am supposedly irrational for making a comparison between Stadia, the PS5 and Scarlett.

You're the first one to compare the two. It seems to me like that's an assumption that you made that the only valid comparison would be between Stadia and other consoles that do not yet exist, and we know almost nothing about.

So you're saying now, definitively, that a gamer that chooses Google Stadia as their primary game platform, gets two games a month, and always wants the top level of performance out of their platform of choice will definitely be less expensive than a gamer that chooses Sony's next game console as their primary game platform, gets two games a month, and always wants the top level of performance out of their platform of choice over a six year period. You're calling that right now?



Barkley said:
potato_hamster said:

If only there were some other consoles on the market we could make comparisons to instead of making assumptions... That's just too bad that the only thing we have to go by are consoles that we don't even know the names of.

Well we could compare them to current consoles, but then Stadia has an overwhelming advantage of being 4 times the power of a standard PS4/XBO and completely free at the same resolution. Wow that's an even bigger win for Stadia than comparing it to nextgen. Probably not the result you were looking for.

What makes you think I'm "looking for" any result? I don't care whatever one comes out as cheaper, I'm just not interested in comparing assumptions to draw conclusions.



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potato_hamster said:
RolStoppable said:

Right, in a thread where everybody understands that the comparison is between Stadia and the upcoming Sony and Microsoft consoles, I am supposedly irrational for making a comparison between Stadia, the PS5 and Scarlett.

You're the first one to compare the two. It seems to me like that's an assumption that you made that the only valid comparison would be between Stadia and other consoles that do not yet exist, and we know almost nothing about.

So you're saying now, definitively, that a gamer that chooses Google Stadia as their primary game platform, gets two games a month, and always wants the top level of performance out of their platform of choice will definitely be less expensive than a gamer that chooses Sony's next game console as their primary game platform, gets two games a month, and always wants the top level of performance out of their platform of choice over a six year period. You're calling that right now?

If the first post of the thread wasn't clear enough to you that the comparison is about Stadia, PS5 and Scarlett, then JRPGfan confirmed it in the third post of this thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9029008

You are the first one in this thread who drew the conclusion that the comparison might not be about Stadia, PS5 and Scarlett, even though it was obvious to everyone else.

As for your straw man argument, no.



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RolStoppable said:
potato_hamster said:

You're the first one to compare the two. It seems to me like that's an assumption that you made that the only valid comparison would be between Stadia and other consoles that do not yet exist, and we know almost nothing about.

So you're saying now, definitively, that a gamer that chooses Google Stadia as their primary game platform, gets two games a month, and always wants the top level of performance out of their platform of choice will definitely be less expensive than a gamer that chooses Sony's next game console as their primary game platform, gets two games a month, and always wants the top level of performance out of their platform of choice over a six year period. You're calling that right now?

If the first post of the thread wasn't clear enough to you that the comparison is about Stadia, PS5 and Scarlett, then JRPGfan confirmed it in the third post of this thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9029008

You are the first one in this thread who drew the conclusion that the comparison might not be about Stadia, PS5 and Scarlett, even though it was obvious to everyone else.

As for your straw man argument, no.

Ohh it is? TIL two people making an assumption mean's it's no longer an assumption, it's a fact! How come you didn't mention the other posts which didn't mention next gen hardware... hmmm...

What about Apple's console that's apparently coming? How about Nintendo's next console? Why aren't they part of your calculations? Why don't you have pricing models for both of those? Let me guess, those comparisons would be ridiculous!

And what straw man are you referring to? Please tell me which argument you never made that I argued against.

Last edited by potato_hamster - on 28 June 2019