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RolStoppable said:
Machiavellian said:

I totally agree.  Trump is the complete mirror of what America is and he represents exactly our standards.  He is exactly what every American harbors in their hearts and he reflect the current values and morals of this Nation.  I hope he gets another 4 years so that he can cement who he is and what America is.  Maybe he can actually change the laws so he can serve a 3rd term which would be even better.

Alternatively, he could announce Charlie Sheen as his successor after the second term. Charlie is also an iconic figure who represents American values and he has already proven that he has mastered the art of spin during his time as the second mayor of New York City.

I have a better idea. Instead of Charlie Sheen it should be done by Carlos Estevez, he has already experience in this area:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvky8UI5Ryk

EDIT:

Oh, he already has a very convincing clip for election (he has my vote):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b-W5uzk86Y

And he has a policy-program thought through:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lOnYL1uSuc

Last edited by Mnementh - on 21 June 2019

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tsogud said:
Cubedramirez said:
Simple. He's the anti-politician and people hate establishment politicians.

Everyone running against him walks and talks like they've been in government their entire adult life. Those people have had enough of the establishment political class and feel his brash nature represent their collective disdain for the typical politician.

Oh and every time someone twists his words like we've seen on this board already it reinforces the belief that his opposition is just irrational-foaming at the mouth Never Trumpers. The same way how completely insane Republicans looked during Obama's two terms.

He's going to win reelection and I am going to enjoy watching the overreactions.

Yeah he'll most likely win if the DNC supports Joe Biden like they did with Hillary but anybody who thinks he's not part of the establishment or at the very least enables its agenda is delusional. He puts in place and is regularly for corporate establishment policies. Really the only thing that's not "establishment" about him is attitude and that he's extremely blunt, to put it nicely.

Yeah. It boggles my mind how people believe of all the democratic candidates is the one most likely to beat Trump, that is most similar to the last nominee that ... lost against Trump.

I think overall this electability argument is wrong. People need policies that make their life better. It doesn't matter who and how. If people focus on electability, they get politicians that do the same regardless of party affiliation. Instead they should focus on the policies they want and push them. Even if the candidate with that policies loses in the end, the policies got more exposure and other candidates might pick them up.



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Just because the mainstream media hates him that doesn’t mean that most Americans do, I mean he got elected once didn’t he?...oh wait I forgot it was the Russians



gamingsoul said:
Just because the mainstream media hates him that doesn’t mean that most Americans do, I mean he got elected once didn’t he?...oh wait I forgot it was the Russians

42% approval rating with a strong economy (which he might tank quicker if he keeps trying to trade war every single damn country at the same time).  So yes a majority of Americans don't like him and a majority of Americans didn't vote for him.

Maybe if he could learn to shut the fuck up and stop fucking stupid tweeting all the damn time then perhaps his poll numbers would rise.  But he can't shut the fuck up.  Hopefully a heart attack from eating McDonald's would do the trick.

Personally I just wish Chuck Norris ran.  I don't like republicans (and most democrats) but I would probably vote for Chuck Norris.  I wouldn't care if he tried to make abortion illegal because hell he is fucking Chuck Norris.



Because the normal left leaning are being ignored and the far left such as AOC are getting the mainstream medias love. A small minority are being front and center to the detriment of the democratic party. These far left are a cancer



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d21lewis said:

Machiavellian said:

This has happened in the pass so yes it can happen.  There was an article a ways back that suggested that Trump was dissatisfied with Mike Pence and was considering on his reelection to run with someone else

Man, everything is coming to Xbox Game Pass!

But seriously, I'm too lazy to Google it. Can you tell me when it happened? I just want to know. It's an interesting piece of trivia.

Here is a link to such an event.

https://www.quora.com/If-a-President-is-elected-for-a-second-term-can-they-choose-a-different-Vice-President

Basically it was done by Franklin Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln Gerald Ford and a few others.



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PortisheadBiscuit said:
only777 said:

Thing is, he didn't call Mexican immigrants rapists though.

He never mentioned Mexican immigrants.  He said Mexican illegal migrants.  Mexican immigrants are not the same thing as Mexican illegal migrants, despite how many people manage to confuse the two.

He said he welcomed Mexican immigrants, that's why he said about building a door in his wall to let people through so they could work at all the jobs he claimed he would create.

But why would someone try to cross illegally and not go through the course of filling out the paper work and getting a visa? 

That would be be people who know they have a criminal history and would be rejected.  That would be the drug dealers and people with sexual assault history.

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I don't blame you for getting it all wrong.  there is a lot of mis-information around these days.

So someone trying to escape a country full of crime, violence, government corruption and doesnt want to wait years to do it should automatically labled a rapist? Especially by someone who's been on record bragging about sexual assualt. Hmmmm okay... 

If you want to call asylum seekers rapists, then you're a pretty shitty person.

Asylum Seekers can claim for asylum.  So far over 14,000 people in 2019 have been successful in this respect.  You may check these numbers yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_the_United_States#Refugee_quotas

However no one mentioned asylum seekers.  This topic is about illegal migrants.  People trying to enter the country illegally.  It seems you don't understand what this term actually means.

  • It's not people who file for a permit to live/work in a different country.  That's Immigration.
  • It's not people who approach Immigration control as they are trying to escape awful situations.  That's Asylum.

Illegal migration is when people try to cross into another country without alerting authorities, and in fact try to evade them.  Now why would someone choose this instead of going through migration controls?  The most common reason by far is to hide previous convictions that would otherwise prevent them from entering.

It's sad that these differences need to be explained.  But the bottom line is this.  If you're not crossing the border via the authorities, you're are trying to evade them, and you're trying to evade them for a reason.

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only777 said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

So someone trying to escape a country full of crime, violence, government corruption and doesnt want to wait years to do it should automatically labled a rapist? Especially by someone who's been on record bragging about sexual assualt. Hmmmm okay... 

If you want to call asylum seekers rapists, then you're a pretty shitty person.

Asylum Seekers can claim for asylum.  So far over 14,000 people in 2019 have been successful in this respect.  You may check these numbers yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_the_United_States#Refugee_quotas

However no one mentioned asylum seekers.  This topic is about illegal migrants.  People trying to enter the country illegally.  It seems you don't understand what this term actually means.

  • It's not people who file for a permit to live/work in a different country.  That's Immigration.
  • It's not people who approach Immigration control as they are trying to escape awful situations.  That's Asylum.

Illegal migration is when people try to cross into another country without alerting authorities, and in fact try to evade them.  Now why would someone choose this instead of going through migration controls?  The most common reason by far is to hide previous convictions that would otherwise prevent them from entering.

It's sad that these differences need to be explained.  But the bottom line is this.  If you're not crossing the border via the authorities, you're are trying to evade them, and you're trying to evade them for a reason.

Yeah, you people give too much credit to Trump for being cryptic. You may differentiate between asylum seekers and illigal immigrants but I assure you Trump does not. 

The same asylum seekers Trump doesn't want in the country to begin with https://time.com/5604189/donald-trump-mexico-deal-safe-third-country/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5604991/donald-trump-migrants-asylum/%3famp=true

And you're fabricaring the notion the sole reason someone would enter the country illegally is the evade the law. Oy vey

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fatslob-:O said:
EricHiggin said:

Fascists, Socialists, and Communists, always garner the largest crowds. Why should it be any different for DT or BS right? lol

I'd liken neither sides as being 'rational' TBQH ... 

You have one side that has a history of being pro-austerity and then you have another side that's clearly anti-growth. Both democrats and republicans are beyond nuts too busy killing each other over progressing their own stupid ideological values. Now I know why shit doesn't EVER get done in America compared to the rivaling one party state at the other side of the world when the so called "power sharing structure" (or what's left thereof it) is a flop since neither sides are actually pragmatic enough to compromise ... 

Both are bad and they know it but they're too damn stubborn to admit the other side is right at least every once in a while ... 

Some on one side see DT as a Fascist and some on the other see BS as a Communist and/or Socialist. They're taking it way to far, and the further apart they get, the harder it becomes to work together until it's flat out impossible. If it keeps up and spreads then down the road it's either break up into smaller countries like Europe has over time, or another civil war. 

Personally I'd suggest if it seems the Dems won't beat Trump next election, then everyone who can should vote Trump. As long as the voting numbers remain fairly close like last time, both sides aren't coming back to center. Another close Trump victory will lead to another 4 years of the same. A YUGE win for Trump will force the Dems to come back and focus more on the center where they would be much better off anyway.

If the Dems look to be able to win, and do, then it's over for the Reps for a lot more than just another 8 years. If Trump of all people can't manage a second term, the right will likely forget about politics for good, which won't be good for anyone.