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Forums - Sales Discussion - Switch overtakes total PS4 sales in Japan, in less than half the time

OTBWY said:
I missed the QuickRick alt? Goddamnit.

Anyway, I don't think we shall see another Vita. It makes me wonder though, if the PS5 isn't as successful in Japan. How will that affect it's 3rd party support. I wonder how much of their relations are based on loyalty or just making profit.

PS5 will still get plenty of big games in Japan; some they'll money-hat, others will be shared with Switch, and yet others will be made for PS5 instead of Switch by devs who'll prioritize eye candy over being financially sensible.

0D0 said:

Nintendo's been a handheld company since GBA. Their strength, soul and success are on handheld only. Leaving the console market was a brilliant decision.

Not strictly true, the Wii was a success.

0D0 said:

Whatever other reasons, Switch got a lot of Wii U content early on and that what made Switch sell so much early on. Nintendo almost used every big franchise they have on the first 12 months. I reckon it's unprecedented.

Splatoon 2 wasn't a Wii U game, nor was Odyssey. As for using "almost every big franchise in the first 12 months" where was Pokemon, Animal Crossing, 2D Mario, Smash Bros, Donkey Kong, Mario Party, etc?

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curl-6 said:
OTBWY said:
I missed the QuickRick alt? Goddamnit.

Anyway, I don't think we shall see another Vita. It makes me wonder though, if the PS5 isn't as successful in Japan. How will that affect it's 3rd party support. I wonder how much of their relations are based on loyalty or just making profit.

PS5 will still get plenty of big games in Japan; some they'll money-hat, others will be shared with Switch, and yet others will be made for PS5 instead of Switch by devs who'll prioritize eye candy over being financially sensible.

0D0 said:

Nintendo's been a handheld company since GBA. Their strength, soul and success are on handheld only. Leaving the console market was a brilliant decision.

Not strictly true, the Wii was a success.

0D0 said:

Whatever other reasons, Switch got a lot of Wii U content early on and that what made Switch sell so much early on. Nintendo almost used every big franchise they have on the first 12 months. I reckon it's unprecedented.

Splatoon 2 wasn't a Wii U game, nor was Odyssey. As for using "almost every big franchise in the first 12 months" where was Pokemon, Animal Crossing, 2D Mario, Smash Bros, Donkey Kong, Mario Party, etc?

Wii was an exception. NES and SNES barely had competition.

My mistake was saying 12 months. Wii U had Smash, MK, Mario 2D, Mario 3D, DKC, Zelda. This is "almost every big franchise".

RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:

Not strictly true, the Wii was a success.

What a terrible response. There is absolutely no evidence that Nintendo's soul has not been in home console gaming; every generation the home console versions of their games outclassed their handheld counterparts in quality and content. Nevermind that Nintendo did not exit the home console market with Switch which again reinforces that they are passionate about having their games played on big screens.

"Not true at all" would have been the appropriate response here. Nintendo's brilliant decision was that they can now focus on a single console without exiting either the home console or handheld market, something that Sony failed at.

Yes yes, brilliant that they have left the home console business, instead focusing on a single tablet.



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?


RolStoppable said:
0D0 said:

Yes yes, brilliant that they have left the home console business, instead focusing on a single tablet.

That makes you face the same question that likeminded people have not been able to answer since over two years:

If Switch is only in the handheld market, how come that this supposed handheld is selling so well at $300 for the console itself and $60 for its games?

I agree with you. I don't know why Nintendo's so expensive. Do you believe many games for Wii U are still very expensive? Much more than Witcher 3 for example that I can find for pennies. That's another reason why I love my PS. I can get so much content for less.



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?


Switch overtaking PS4 ruffled some feathers eh?



0D0 said:
curl-6 said:

PS5 will still get plenty of big games in Japan; some they'll money-hat, others will be shared with Switch, and yet others will be made for PS5 instead of Switch by devs who'll prioritize eye candy over being financially sensible.

Not strictly true, the Wii was a success.

Splatoon 2 wasn't a Wii U game, nor was Odyssey. As for using "almost every big franchise in the first 12 months" where was Pokemon, Animal Crossing, 2D Mario, Smash Bros, Donkey Kong, Mario Party, etc?

Wii was an exception. NES and SNES barely had competition.

My mistake was saying 12 months. Wii U had Smash, MK, Mario 2D, Mario 3D, DKC, Zelda. This is "almost every big franchise".

Define "barely":

Sega Genesis

Lifespan
1988–1997 (Sega)

Units sold
Sega: 30.75 million
Tec Toy: 3 million
Majesco: 1.5 million (projected)



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0D0 said:
RolStoppable said:

That makes you face the same question that likeminded people have not been able to answer since over two years:

If Switch is only in the handheld market, how come that this supposed handheld is selling so well at $300 for the console itself and $60 for its games?

I agree with you. I don't know why Nintendo's so expensive. Do you believe many games for Wii U are still very expensive? Much more than Witcher 3 for example that I can find for pennies. That's another reason why I love my PS. I can get so much content for less.

I see someone has mastered the art of sidestepping.



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0D0 said:
RolStoppable said:

That makes you face the same question that likeminded people have not been able to answer since over two years:

If Switch is only in the handheld market, how come that this supposed handheld is selling so well at $300 for the console itself and $60 for its games?

I agree with you. I don't know why Nintendo's so expensive. Do you believe many games for Wii U are still very expensive? Much more than Witcher 3 for example that I can find for pennies. That's another reason why I love my PS. I can get so much content for less.

That's completely beside the point.

But anyway, of course Wii U titles are expensive, especially now. The console was a flop, there ain't many consoles or games out there for the collectors, and, like many Nintendo consoles in the past, it's slowly getting vindicated, meaning it's increasingly sought after.

Physical copies of games like The Wonderful 101 or Tank! Tank! Tank! will certainly become rather expensive over the years due to limited amount of copies for the collectors.



TruckOSaurus said:
0D0 said:

I agree with you. I don't know why Nintendo's so expensive. Do you believe many games for Wii U are still very expensive? Much more than Witcher 3 for example that I can find for pennies. That's another reason why I love my PS. I can get so much content for less.

I see someone has mastered the art of sidestepping.

Haha.

Well, the other option is to discuss the definition of handheld and hybrid and tablet and then we gonna get that endless war with a bunch of moderation and nobody agreeing and the end of the world. This forum and all the forums in the world have been there. So, since the point is the thing is not handheld because of price, well let's discuss how expensive Nintendo is. It's much more fun :D

Bofferbrauer2 said:
0D0 said:

I agree with you. I don't know why Nintendo's so expensive. Do you believe many games for Wii U are still very expensive? Much more than Witcher 3 for example that I can find for pennies. That's another reason why I love my PS. I can get so much content for less.

That's completely beside the point.

But anyway, of course Wii U titles are expensive, especially now. The console was a flop, there ain't many consoles or games out there for the collectors, and, like many Nintendo consoles in the past, it's slowly getting vindicated, meaning it's increasingly sought after.

Physical copies of games like The Wonderful 101 or Tank! Tank! Tank! will certainly become rather expensive over the years due to limited amount of copies for the collectors.

Rather expensive over the years? Only physical copies?

Nintendo is expensive. Always expensive. Physical and online. Always. Any generation. I can boot my Wii U and check the online store now and it's gonna be ridiculous. I bet Tokyo Mirage is twice the price of whatever high quality game on PS4. It was a couple of years ago. That's how Nintendo does business.

I wouldn't be surprised if Zelda on Wii U online shop is full price. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if Devil's Third is full price. :D



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?


Thank god the Switch came around and saved the Japanese market from mobile gaming oblivion.



HyrulianScrolls said:
Thank god the Switch came around and saved the Japanese market from mobile gaming oblivion.

But Switch is mobile gaming.

:D

Kidding. Don't kill me.



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?