the-pi-guy said:
o_O.Q said:
democrats have been describing russia as a rogue, tyrannical state out to destroy america
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And you think the reality is that Russia is super friendly.
You don't think Russia gains anything by influencing the US?
Do you think it's okay for Russia to work to influence the US?
o_O.Q said:
they have equated association with russia as treason, surely you are aware of all of that
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Show me one instance where they used the word "treason" or "collusion" in the same instance that they were only associating with Russia.
Your third video is the closest instance to doing that, but it has nothing to do with Trump simply associating with Russia.
Even though it isn't "treason", Trump siding with Russia over our own intelligence communities, is messed up.
If the president trusts another country's intelligence agencies, specifically ones that would benefit from tricking ours, over our own intelligence agencies, that's a problem.
Do you think the US intelligence agencies should get torn down, if Russia's intelligence agencies are so reliable for us?
Do you think that Russia's intelligence agencies should be trusted over our own?
o_O.Q said:
oh shit! he talked to putin? from russia?
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Well firstly, news reporters tend to report things like that, regardless of who it is.
Look, BBC reported an instance of Obama talking to Putin!
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-22945382/obama-and-putin-hold-tense-syria-talks
o_O.Q said:
so the astronauts up in the ISS right now eat, sleep, shit etc etc etc with russians, why isn't that a problem?
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It's almost like there's a difference between random astronauts working with other random astronauts in another country and the president of the United States of America working with a foreign government.
Seriously let me know the next time a random US astronaut who oversees the entire US military, it's entire nuclear stockpile, and has the power to appoint people to manage tons of other aspects of the lives of 300 million people, and is usually considered the most powerful person on the planet, is working with an adversarial power who has something to gain from getting rid of us.
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"And you think the reality is that Russia is super friendly."
if they weren't why would we be going to space with them? at the very least they have to be the kind of guys that you can go out and have a bear with right?
"Do you think it's okay for Russia to work to influence the US? "
do i think its ok for russians to run facebook ads? yes
do i think its ok for russians to send phishing emails? no
but then again americans send phishing emails to people in russia all the time
"You don't think Russia gains anything by influencing the US?"
i suppose so
"Show me one instance where they used the word "treason" or "collusion" in the same instance that they were only associating with Russia. "
come on man i gave video evidence and its pretty clear that this has been a dominant narrative of democrats for a while now
"Trump siding with Russia over our own intelligence communities"
trump sided with russia over whether there was collusion or not, he has been vindicated now with the completion of the investigation
"Do you think the US intelligence agencies should get torn down"
i actually do because they have been tricking the american people for decades, the middle east and various other regions are in shambles as a result
but of course the problem has progressed too far now and the damage has been done
"Do you think that Russia's intelligence agencies should be trusted over our own?"
no, neither should be trusted and the government should have far less power, finally i would go as far as saying that the veil of national security should be taken down so the people of the us can actually see what is happening to their money and for what agendas
i think there would be a rather startling realisation
"It's almost like there's a difference between random astronauts working with other random astronauts in another country and the president of the United States of America working with a foreign government. "
on what? the space program?
"is working with an adversarial power who has something to gain from getting rid of us."
which is done for the space program