By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sales Discussion - March NPD 2019 thread

jason1637 said:

Yeah im interested in seeing how consoles uaully sell on their 6th year. @Shadow1980 If you have any numbers/graphics regarding 6th year sales for previous generation that would be appreciated.

We gotta implement a "Summon Shadow1980"-button.



Around the Network
Nuvendil said:
Pionner said:
Will all due respect, benji has to be the biggest baby ever. Just because someone is offering a different perspective on sales doesn't make that a console war post. Every single month we were all told "everybody is doing well" when PS4 was first in sales. Now all of a sudden everybody is NOT doing well when Switch is first? SilverX provided a very good summary on why PS4's sales are actually great. Even Xbox 1. Benji and other posters disagreed. That bullshit "everybody is doing well" thread meme doesn't apply anymore it looks like. The only fanboys in that thread are the people bothered by that post. And as usual benji tactic, he mentions wanting a self ban but never actual goes trough with it. It's similar to somebody crying to get attention and make people feel sorry for them.

Everyone was doing well when PS4 and Xbone weren't down 30%.  Which is what Benji explained.  And there were plenty of months the last two years when Switch  was leading the pack that all three were said to be doing well.  I do think it was presumptuous for him to respond to a post he cannot see since he has that guy set to ignore, but that post was pretty strong spin.  While he is right that Sony is being conservative with pushing PS4, they've been that way for a while now unless a big release is coming out.  And MS going firesale and bundle crazy has been a constant since 2014.  So while the factors he stated were true, they have been true since before the decline this year.  And thus framing those things like new factors that relate specifically to this period is disingenuous.  These declines aren't disastrous, but they are normal.  Great would be a defying of expectations.

Oh and Xbox One sales are objectively not great.  They weren't great very often before, they really aren't great now.

Now let's not further derail the thread with antagonizing people who are not registered here and cannot defend themselves.  That tends to get toxic fast.

That's the point though. These declines are expected and we kept hearing beforehand how PS4 and Xbox 1 are in for a big decline in 2019. Yet here we are where a console at full price still manages to pull 250K in March after 6 years. Despite being down.  SilverX post wasn't spin, it was looking at sales comparatively from what it could have been, the PS4 price, and how long it's been on the market.

The "everybody is doing well" was always used anytime PS4 came first and people looked at Switch or Xbox 1 sales negatively. People made post on why Switch sales are still good. Now somebody does it for a different console it's spin? A console war post? Nope.



Formerly ilovegirls69  :(

Pionner said:
MasonADC said:

Pa4 had a pretty size able decrease yoy, which means different things to different people. I would never say that that is a great performance.  

PS4 has been at full MSRP. We all know Sony hasn't dropped the price or do deals for PS4. With this known and talk of PS4 Xbox 1 being down this year, PS4 sales results is in fact great performance.

It’s still not “great”. Great would be if it doesn’t drop at all, or a slight drop. Also, full MSRP would be $400, right? Using that term is weird 



Those graphics really show how well the Switch is doing. Best Q1 this gen is really good.



Software all rankings are revenuehttps://venturebeat.com/2019/04/23/march-2019-npd-kingdom-hearts-iii-becomes-the-series-best-seller-in-u-s/
Best selling games of the month..

  • Tom Clancy’s The Division 2
  • Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
  • MLB 19: The Show
  • Devil May Cry 5
  • Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
  • Red Dead Redemption II
  • NBA 2K19
  • Grand Theft Auto V
  • Yoshi’s Crafted World
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 4

Best selling games of Q1

  • Kingdom Hearts III
  • The Division 2
  • Anthem
  • Resident Evil 2
  • Red Dead Redemption II
  • Jump Force
  • Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
  • Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 4
  • New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe

Best selling games in the last 12 months

  • Red Dead Redemption II
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 4
  • NBA 2K19
  • Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
  • Madden NFL 19
  • Marvel’s Spider-Man
  • God of War 2018
  • Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey
  • FIFA 19
  • Mario Kart 8

Kingdom Hearts is now the best selling game in the series now.

Sekiro is From's second best best launch following Dark Souls 3.

MLB the show 19 had its best month in franchise history.

DMCV is the second best launch in the seires. The first is DMC4.

Division 2 is Ubisoft 6th best launch.



Around the Network
jason1637 said:

Software all rankings are revenuehttps://venturebeat.com/2019/04/23/march-2019-npd-kingdom-hearts-iii-becomes-the-series-best-seller-in-u-s/
Best selling games of the month..

  • Tom Clancy’s The Division 2
  • Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
  • MLB 19: The Show
  • Devil May Cry 5
  • Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
  • Red Dead Redemption II
  • NBA 2K19
  • Grand Theft Auto V
  • Yoshi’s Crafted World
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 4

Best selling games of Q1

  • Kingdom Hearts III
  • The Division 2
  • Anthem
  • Resident Evil 2
  • Red Dead Redemption II
  • Jump Force
  • Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
  • Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 4
  • New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe

Best selling games in the last 12 months

  • Red Dead Redemption II
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 4
  • NBA 2K19
  • Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
  • Madden NFL 19
  • Marvel’s Spider-Man
  • God of War 2018
  • Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey
  • FIFA 19
  • Mario Kart 8

Kingdom Hearts is now the best selling game in the series now.

Sekiro is From's second best best launch following Dark Souls 3.

MLB the show 19 had its best month in franchise history.

DMCV is the second best launch in the seires. The first is DMC4.

Division 2 is Ubisoft 6th best launch.

Oh wow, amazing The power that that has.



thread update



Replicant said:
Nuvendil said:

Everyone was doing well when PS4 and Xbone weren't down 30%. Which is what Benji explained. And there were plenty of months the last two years when Switch  was leading the pack that all three were said to be doing well. I do think it was presumptuous for him to respond to a post he cannot see since he has that guy set to ignore, but that post was pretty strong spin. While he is right that Sony is being conservative with pushing PS4, they've been that way for a while now unless a big release is coming out. And MS going firesale and bundle crazy has been a constant since 2014. So while the factors he stated were true, they have been true since before the decline this year. And thus framing those things like new factors that relate specifically to this period is disingenuous. These declines aren't disastrous, but they are normal. Great would be a defying of expectations.

Oh and Xbox One sales are objectively not great. They weren't great very often before, they really aren't great now.

Bold: Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the XB1 decline quite small? I get that you don't think its sales were that great in the first place but I think it's having quite a healthy life this late in the gen.

XB1 (March)
2014: 258,000
2015: 229,000
2016: 242,000
2017: 200,000
2018: 299,000
2019: 221,000

PS4 is down 29.7% from its peak March but I wouldn't necessarily go out of my way to emphasize how I think that it "isn't great" for a console to pull 253,000 in the US in its 6th March (maybe Shadow knows how many consoles have had a better 6th March).

PS4 (March)
2014: 280,000
2015: 330,000
2016: 330,000
2017: 360,000
2018: 354,000
2019: 253,000

So in other words, XBO was only somewhat weaker than it's average for last month, but PS4 just had it's worst March.

A pricecut for the PS4 is getting more and more pressing, that is really a huge drop.



Shadow1980 said:
The next batch of charts will focus on quarterly sales in general, and will include the requested Year 6 comparisons to previous generations.

Nice! Thank you for the work.

jason1637 said:
Those graphics really show how well the Switch is doing. Best Q1 this gen is really good.

Yeah, Switch is consistently pulling big numbers.

Bofferbrauer2 said:
So in other words, XBO was only somewhat weaker than it's average for last month, but PS4 just had it's worst March.

A pricecut for the PS4 is getting more and more pressing, that is really a huge drop.

That's another way to look at it, I guess.

It'd be great to see a $100 pricecut for PS4. Still, I look forward to see Shadow's data on how much consoles have sold in their 6th March historically. If selling 253,000 is rare for a console's 6th March, it kinda gives some perspective to that "pressing pricecut", "huge drop", and "worst March".



Bofferbrauer2 said:
So in other words, XBO was only somewhat weaker than it's average for last month, but PS4 just had it's worst March.

A pricecut for the PS4 is getting more and more pressing, that is really a huge drop.

That's another way to look at it, I guess.

It'd be great to see a $100 pricecut for PS4. Still, I look forward to see Shadow's data on how much consoles have sold in their 6th March historically. If selling 253,000 is rare for a console's 6th March, it kinda gives some perspective to that "pressing pricecut", "huge drop", and "worst March".

Why does everybody expect an $100 pricecut? If Sony does a pricecut, then certainly only $50, not $100.