Irony/ironic is one of those words that has a different meaning in the US, or in certain regions of the US. It’s something like coincidence, predictable, or both.

Wasn't that the original point that was made? As per Biden, the President, that even amendments aren't absolute?

So even if you made it a law or a right, it could still be taken away, apparently?

This doesn't apply to Democrats as well? Complaining and constantly trying to take away gun rights, even if it's done bit by bit, which is the only chance of doing it without serious backlash. They also clearly aren't happy about the recent abortion reversal, though it was never a right or law to begin with, so then they also don't like when you take something away they never had in the first place.

You can spend all the money you want, and attempt to influence all you want, yet if there are enough citizens to back your cause no matter what anyway, then you really don't matter that much. In the case of gun ownership, all the lobby is really doing, is potentially stopping major violence if the politicians decide to eventually cross the line. First its protests, then riots, then God help us.

Obviously not a free for all. Some restrictions must exist, but how many and how strict those restrictions are could certainly differ place to place.

Depends on how you define successful. Were the universal healthcare systems successful when it came to dealing with covid? Kind of, sort of, not really?

You only ever get 2 out of 3 though and that's true everywhere for healthcare. You can have cheap and high quality, but then you end up waiting forever to be served. In the US they have high quality that's attended to quickly, but it's expensive.

The US is typically pretty good at just that. Take someone else's good idea, and tinker with it until it's better or great. They haven't seemed to have cracked the top rated healthcare systems available yet, but they may never, simply because what they have cracked is the top healthcare profit margins.

Absolutely. Hence my entire point to start with.
That issues need bipartisan support... And that only happens when people stop moaning about left vs right or republican vs democrats and start weighing issues based on their intrinsic merits rather than because it's what their "team" promotes and supports.

Keep in mind I am neither Democrat nor Republican. I don't even care for either side.

But I do support whichever party supports gun control... And that just happens to be Democrat in the USA, a left leaning political party.
Where-as here the Liberals were the party which supported and introduced gun control... A right wing conservative party.

Again... I don't care about left vs right, republican or democrat, I weigh issues based on their individual merits... And gun control absolutely works.

Abortion needs to be a universal right, it needs bipartisan support.. And for that to happen, Republicans need to man up and start focusing on what is right... And that is the rights of women to have control over the bodies they were born into.
And yes it was law, with varying conditions/legislation on a per-state basis.. And in 1973 with the wade vs roe case, made it federally legalized... And in 2022 with the overturn, it has now reverted back to a state by state basis. - Such a backwards country.

What needs to step aside is political donations. - Politicians and law makers should NOT be bought/influenced under any circumstance, they don't work for lobbyists, they work for the people.

No. The gun lobby is not preventing violence, they work for their own self-interest and that is to promote the sale of guns, it has NOTHING to do with protecting citizens.

Australia when it introduced gun control didn't have protests en-masse, then riots... And then required the worship to some unproven-deity... So that slippery slope logical fallacy is redundant.

Our Universal healthcare system had one of the better COVID responses, we certainly had less congestion and issues during the height of the pandemic verses the United States.

As for "only ever get 2 out of 3". - Yes. That is true. Sometimes.
Fact is, our Healthcare system not only has shorter wait times, but we have higher quality care and it costs less than the United States Model.

You guys really just don't have it together when it comes to health.

A big advantage we have is Government control over the pricing of medication with very hard caps... Not only that but the Government will help fund the cost of medication, surgery's and other medical expenses... But ours is a hybrid model, it's not true "Universal" healthcare in the strictest sense, but anyone can walk off the street into a hospital and seek help.

And it works.

And yet, still a terrible health system, lower standard of living... Your minimum wage is a joke... And what is up with tipping? Lack of gun control... Your border policy is terrible which allows people to illegally migrate en-masse...
I could go on.

But WHEN the USA does get it right, you can inspire the world.

By definition an 'Amendment' is a change after the fact. By its very core Amendments are part of US (Or just any) law.

This idea that you have your inalienable rights because of an amendment and assume that can't change due to historical context or social pressure is absurd to me and any other rational, reasonable person.

That's just how time works. Shit changes and you adapt. you amend your old decisions to keep up with the times. I shouldn't need to explain this to anyone.

Trying to compare Australia to the US and assuming it should all be the same isn't a reasonable expectation. Not everything would be the same as it's not already. Different people, different culture, different laws, different geography, different country history, etc. Some things are shared or common so yes, some things are and could be the same, but just because it worked there doesn't necessarily mean it'll work everywhere. Trying to convince another country that it really does work, also requires them to agree that working, or working well enough to be worth it, means the same to them as it does to you. As to your starting point, the majority has to agree to it, and as the world can see, that's much easier said than done in some places. Which is why separate states calling most of the shots makes the most sense, because getting the majority to agree on certain things, seemingly major things, is only ever going to happen as one, if America splits into two separate countries.

It is certainly a reasonable expectation. We want the USA to do better, be better, that is a very reasonable expectation.

We aren't that different.
We have very similar histories... British colonies, displaced the native populace, developed the land and derived our culture and laws from Europe and the native inhabitants.
We also primarily consume the same content... Games often connect to US servers, we get all your movies and TV shows... I.E. Marvel, Game of Thrones etc'.

We also go to war together, the USA goes, we go. We go, the USA goes.

We speak the same language.

Basically shifting the goal post to trying to assert that we are "too different" and that those changes won't work is defeatist, you and your country aren't even willing to try.
What do you have to loose? Your current system is terrible anyway!

Our system has been mirrored across Europe with great success.

Which is why I am calling for bipartisan support.

Leaving it up to the states is not really a "United States" is it? More like a Divided States.

The US also wants everyone else to be better. Not everyone is good at everything. Who's the best most correct nation in the world?

Like Japan should do better with their gun laws. Look at what just happened there because of how lax they are. Or are they?

The US has 125 years on Australia as a nation, as to my prior point about different country history. Before that time, yes, much more similar.

How much of the world consumes or depends on America vs Australia? Which country worldwide has the most immigrants?

There is no too different point being made, just that everything is different and unique in it's own way. It's a big part of America's troubled past.

The Greek and Roman systems led to other great, better systems, and the British or Euro system has led to the same as it branched out, yes.

Maybe not all the problems that exist in America exist in Australia, and maybe those problems are in the way or a distraction from other problems.

I think it's safe to say the US people are more alike to each other than Americans are to Australians, yet with common ancestry.

That being so, how is America going to come together in an Australian manner if they can't get along and agree between themselves as Americans?

You're going to have to explain what your point is here, because I have a lot to say about what I think you're saying, but I want to be sure first.

I never asserted that everyone is good at everything. But the USA doesn't rank number 1 in any social aspects.

Japan had a casualty from their extremely strict gun laws, yes, it was also a higher profile target that ended up making the news.
But the fact is, their gun control works and still works... They have one of the worlds lowest rates of gun-related crime in the world.

Dependence of a nation isn't really a sensible approach.
Australia is a resource rich nation that underpins the entire planets manufacturing.

Culturally, historically, ethically we are similar nations. Not the same. Similar.
And regardless of how similar or different we are, doesn't erode the fact that a functional healthcare system and gun control is more than possible in any country, it seems you are grasping at straws now to find *any* reason not to support those policies.

Not all problems that exist in Australia, exist in America. What's your point?

My neighbor is a doctor, from the USA, she is very much one of us and we are of you, our culture, language, history have similar beginnings.

You don't need to be an Australian to have Gun control and a functional healthcare system and a high standard of living.
Plenty of other nations with different cultures and languages have achieved parity in many of those areas.

You're going to have to explain first what exactly you need explained further and how in depth, and to an acceptable degree. I'm not going to lay out every single thing every other nation than America does worse or simply doesn't do good enough.