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Liz Cheney removed from leadership for acknowledging reality and speaking out against Dear Leader. The Church of Trump has been made official.



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TallSilhouette said:

Liz Cheney removed from leadership for acknowledging reality and speaking out against Dear Leader. The Church of Trump has been made official.

Sort of... but maybe also sort of not...

The line from the GOP is that they simply want to move forward, and I think that there's some truth in that. They don't want anyone to bring up the election, because that puts them in the position of either having to kick the hornets nest of psychopaths that have become a huge part of their constituency, or alienating those in the party who maintain some semblance of common sense. 

My feelings on Trump are likely well known, but I think the party is justified strategically in removing her, and not just because she is speaking out against Trump. For the time being at least, the party is better off trying to sweep this under the rug. They want 2022 to be about Biden, not about Trump, because that's what you want for midterms.

Now, of course, that's just speaking strategically. If they actually had spines and cared about what was best for the country, they'd have spoken out in a unified voice against the election fraud nonsense from the beginning, and simply ripped that bandaid off.



TallSilhouette said:

Liz Cheney removed from leadership for acknowledging reality and speaking out against Dear Leader. The Church of Trump has been made official.

With this infighting in the GOP they are really hurting on their chances to win back seats in the next election, even more so if people like Cheney would get not just removed from their office, but kicked out of or left the party entirely for it.



JWeinCom said:
TallSilhouette said:

Liz Cheney removed from leadership for acknowledging reality and speaking out against Dear Leader. The Church of Trump has been made official.

Sort of... but maybe also sort of not...

The line from the GOP is that they simply want to move forward, and I think that there's some truth in that. They don't want anyone to bring up the election, because that puts them in the position of either having to kick the hornets nest of psychopaths that have become a huge part of their constituency, or alienating those in the party who maintain some semblance of common sense. 

My feelings on Trump are likely well known, but I think the party is justified strategically in removing her, and not just because she is speaking out against Trump. For the time being at least, the party is better off trying to sweep this under the rug. They want 2022 to be about Biden, not about Trump, because that's what you want for midterms.

Now, of course, that's just speaking strategically. If they actually had spines and cared about what was best for the country, they'd have spoken out in a unified voice against the election fraud nonsense from the beginning, and simply ripped that bandaid off.

Its hard to believe they are trying to get pass Trump when they continue to pander to him.  As long as the party continue to wait in limbo until Trump decides to do anything besides making statements on how he was robbed, I doubt the Party will actually do anything for the Midterms.  The thing is the party has no direction or leadership because they will not divorce themselves of Trump.  

The thing is, Trump will continue to string them along with the Maybe or Maybe not run in 2024.  All the while concentrating on the big lie while doing nothing for the midterms.  The GOP will continue to rid this train straight off the cliff and they only have themselves to blame.

It was funny to read some articles where a few GOP asked Trump to help with the midterms and he gave them the answer they should have known would come "What do I get out of it".  If they have not realize that Trump cares absolutely nothing about the party, they will probably by 2022 and them we will see if they really are ready to kick him to the curve.



Machiavellian said:
JWeinCom said:

Sort of... but maybe also sort of not...

The line from the GOP is that they simply want to move forward, and I think that there's some truth in that. They don't want anyone to bring up the election, because that puts them in the position of either having to kick the hornets nest of psychopaths that have become a huge part of their constituency, or alienating those in the party who maintain some semblance of common sense. 

My feelings on Trump are likely well known, but I think the party is justified strategically in removing her, and not just because she is speaking out against Trump. For the time being at least, the party is better off trying to sweep this under the rug. They want 2022 to be about Biden, not about Trump, because that's what you want for midterms.

Now, of course, that's just speaking strategically. If they actually had spines and cared about what was best for the country, they'd have spoken out in a unified voice against the election fraud nonsense from the beginning, and simply ripped that bandaid off.

Its hard to believe they are trying to get pass Trump when they continue to pander to him.  As long as the party continue to wait in limbo until Trump decides to do anything besides making statements on how he was robbed, I doubt the Party will actually do anything for the Midterms.  The thing is the party has no direction or leadership because they will not divorce themselves of Trump.  

The thing is, Trump will continue to string them along with the Maybe or Maybe not run in 2024.  All the while concentrating on the big lie while doing nothing for the midterms.  The GOP will continue to rid this train straight off the cliff and they only have themselves to blame.

It was funny to read some articles where a few GOP asked Trump to help with the midterms and he gave them the answer they should have known would come "What do I get out of it".  If they have not realize that Trump cares absolutely nothing about the party, they will probably by 2022 and them we will see if they really are ready to kick him to the curve.

The republican party hasn't had any direction or leadership for quite some time. Their strategy for about two decades has been.

1) Don't propose anything to deal with any of the problems in the country.

2) Attack whatever the democrats do to try and fix it, usually by calling it socialism.

And that's what they want to get back to by 2022. 

But Trump will definitely hold them hostage for the next 4 years. And the house members are especially vulnerable. The best case scenario for the party is probably Trump winding up in jail so they can try to use that to rally his base without Trump himself fucking it up. Or, if he dies. Guarantee they'd be popping the champagne behind closed doors if that happened.



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JWeinCom said:

The line from the GOP is that they simply want to move forward, and I think that there's some truth in that. They don't want anyone to bring up the election, because that puts them in the position of either having to kick the hornets nest of psychopaths that have become a huge part of their constituency, or alienating those in the party who maintain some semblance of common sense. 

If that were true, they wouldn't be conducting farcical election 'audits' several months after the new president has already been seated.

Bofferbrauer2 said:

With this infighting in the GOP they are really hurting on their chances to win back seats in the next election, even more so if people like Cheney would get not just removed from their office, but kicked out of or left the party entirely for it.

Maybe Liz will head up the new conservative third party, seeing how the GOP has repledged their fealty to the golden calf along with her pledge not to go away quietly. Not holding my breath, but I certainly wouldn't mind seeing them eat each other.



TallSilhouette said:
JWeinCom said:

The line from the GOP is that they simply want to move forward, and I think that there's some truth in that. They don't want anyone to bring up the election, because that puts them in the position of either having to kick the hornets nest of psychopaths that have become a huge part of their constituency, or alienating those in the party who maintain some semblance of common sense. 

If that were true, they wouldn't be conducting farcical election 'audits' several months after the new president has already been seated.

Bofferbrauer2 said:

With this infighting in the GOP they are really hurting on their chances to win back seats in the next election, even more so if people like Cheney would get not just removed from their office, but kicked out of or left the party entirely for it.

Maybe Liz will head up the new conservative third party, seeing how the GOP has repledged their fealty to the golden calf along with her pledge not to go away quietly. Not holding my breath, but I certainly wouldn't mind seeing them eat each other.

I'm referring to the GOP on a national level. On a national or even statewide level, being the Trumpiest candidate probably is not a winning strategy. On a local level, if you're in a red district where you will likely win if you survive the primary, playing to Trump's base is viable. That is why the Senate has distanced itself from Trump moreso than the House has.



God, will there ever be any accountability for these insane lies?...

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-arizona-election-recounts-elections-election-2020-316be3604cae983781e413d41253656d



A thought:

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"The Great Labor Shortage of 2021 came for Klavon’s Ice Cream in Pittsburgh, but rather than asking the U.S. government to end COVID benefits helping those put out of work, it used a novel idea to solve the “crisis.”

...

Co-owner Jacob Hanchar told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review in March that the store was struggling to find even one person to hire for a business that usually has at least 11 workers by the summer rush. So the parlor announced it would raise its minimum wage to $15 per hour plus tips beginning April 1.  

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The result: They received “well over a thousand applications” in a week and staffed 16 positions “practically overnight,” Hanchar told MSNBC Wednesday."

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Who would've thought that if you actually paid people, they'd want to work for you?

And so: perhaps if we did this nationwide, America's so-called labor shortage could be solved! I think there's a policy proposal corresponding to this idea if I remember correctly. Something about a $15/hour minimum wage or something like that. *shrugs*

Last edited by Jaicee - on 22 May 2021

Jaicee said:

Who would've thought that if you actually paid people, they'd want to work for you?

And so: perhaps if we did this nationwide, America's so-called labor shortage could be solved! I think there's a policy proposal corresponding to this idea if I remember correctly. Something about a $15/hour minimum wage or something like that. *shrugs*

But poverty is so much fun!