Machiavellian said:
RolStoppable said:

It's pretty obvious that doing less testing would make you find less new cases, so right now the Trump administration is looking bad because it's doing too good of a job in this current crisis. The twisting is all about spinning this good job into something negative, i.e. claims that Trump and his administration hasn't handled this crisis well when the truth is that they've been doing better than every other country in the world.

Stop calling me a crybaby or I'll run to the mods of this forum and beg them to take care of you.

Voting Trump is the better course of action because it pisses off all the dems in this country.

Lol, he stated he told his administration to slow down testing.  Think about this one sec and stop defending stupid crap.  Its stupid to tell your administration to slow testing because it makes you look bad.  Its irresponsible to the welfare of the US citizens for him to think about himself instead of the welfare of its citizens.  Its damn near treasous for him to put himself before the welfare of its citizens.  Only an idiot would make that statement and its why every one of his people jump to say he was making a joke because even they knew how stupid it was but here you are defending it.....

Lol, if you feel you are a crybaby then thats on you since I never refereed to you in person.  Since I already feel you are pulling my chain, I am willing to play along.

I thought you'd get it after that last post, but Rule 1 of dealing with Rol, is never take him seriously.



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sundin13 said:
Machiavellian said:

Lol, he stated he told his administration to slow down testing.  Think about this one sec and stop defending stupid crap.  Its stupid to tell your administration to slow testing because it makes you look bad.  Its irresponsible to the welfare of the US citizens for him to think about himself instead of the welfare of its citizens.  Its damn near treasous for him to put himself before the welfare of its citizens.  Only an idiot would make that statement and its why every one of his people jump to say he was making a joke because even they knew how stupid it was but here you are defending it.....

Lol, if you feel you are a crybaby then thats on you since I never refereed to you in person.  Since I already feel you are pulling my chain, I am willing to play along.

I thought you'd get it after that last post, but Rule 1 of dealing with Rol, is never take him seriously.

Says the guy who sent me a fat PM a few days ago.

But he got it, no worries. He likes to play along, hence why we miss Eric so much in this thread.



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RolStoppable said:
sundin13 said:

I thought you'd get it after that last post, but Rule 1 of dealing with Rol, is never take him seriously.

Says the guy who sent me a fat PM a few days ago.

But he got it, no worries. He likes to play along, hence why we miss Eric so much in this thread.

That's a bit mean! Maybe it was just big boned.



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My biggest issue with Trump is probably the fact that he has had no prior political experience, went bankrupt 6 times and has many failed businesses, paid off a porn star to keep quiet, has over 24 harassment allegations, has had 2 articles of impeachment drafted against him, illegally contacted Ukraine to help him win re-election, has the most hours of golfing over any president, has done nothing to help our dying climate, botched the coronavirus response because he called it a hoax by the democrats instead of acting quicker, has never had an approval rating of over 45 percent, the whole Central Park 5 incident, thinks climate change is a Chinese hoax, told POC to go back to where they came from, throws meltdowns on Twitter, constantly retweets himself agreeing with himself, has had tweets flagged for misinformation, signed an executive bill regarding Twitter after his feelings got hurt, has increased our debt, hasn’t pulled out of any wars, adbandoned the Kurds, is really fat with a spray tan, has US pride at an all time low, has 10 cases of obstruction of justice per the mueller report, used George Floyd as an excuse to brag about job numbers, wanted to use violence against peaceful protestors, has done nothing to solve the wealth gap or poverty rate, has increased our debt, is fat and has an ugly spray tan, said he would date his own daughter, talked about fake treatments during a corona press conference, used to be an anti vaxxer, violated an official weather map with a fucking sharpie, all the shit in john Bolton’s book, said that cases would disappear if testing stopped, has a Vice President that can’t say “black lives matter” only “all lives matter”, falsely claimed there’s an AIDS vaccine, loves himself but has little empathy for others, is a complete asshole to reporters, made fun of someone disabled, the “grab by the pussy” thing, wanted to nuke a hurricane, thinks windmills cause cancer, has told over 19,000 false claims, talked more about him on a ramp than George Floyd, wants burning the flag to be a crime, called the coronavirus the kung flu, and has done nothing to help the average American.

Also the fact that he’s a lying, unqualified, draft dodging, gold star family disrespecting, POW attacking, US General insulting, racist, sexist, vulgar, confirmed sexual assaulting, trillion dollars to the rich tax cutting, own daughter creeping, wife cheating with a pornstar after birth of son and paying her off to influence a presidential election, $413 million dollar inheritance getting, teen pageant dressing room invading, baby and mother separating, breast feeding mother shaming, fat-shaming while being fat, 17 women accusing him of sexual assaulting, accusers are not attractive enough for him to assault implying, university student defrauding, bankrupt casino causing, kids cancer charity stealing, taped detailed accusation of rape of a minor having, wife-beating, popular vote losing, anti-vaxxing, Christianity-faking, publicist impersonating, tax dodging, friends’ wives pursuing, impeached, foreign aid bribing, 1/3 of the presidency golf playing, free press assaulting, Hannity coordinating, Cambridge Analytica using, Ivanka is a “piece of ass” approving, loan application asset inflating, historically low polling, college achievement faking, unqualified judge appointing, unqualified cabinet member appointing, foreign influence on our election welcoming, tax release avoiding, birther conspiracy spreading, Ukraine ambassador targeting, Russian money taking, Kurdish ally abandoning, soldier brain injury downplaying, full morning “executive time” taking, Epstein befriending, Putin bowing, Kim Jong Un praising, North Korean general saluting, US intelligence denying, tallest building in lower Manhattan after 9/11 boasting, congress obstructing, nuclear non-proliferation deal ending, Justice obstructing, unqualified daughter and son-in-law appointing, healthcare cut targeting, pedophile candidate supporting, trump tower Moscow denying, mail-bomber inspiring, 4 out of top 5 largest protests in US history causing, green energy stifling, clean water regulation destroying, healthy school lunch ending, climate change denying, congressional and judicial branch attacking, economy does better under democrats saying, Goldman Sachs appointing, food stamp removing, emissions standards lowering, press conference avoiding, emoluments clause breaking, longest govt shutdown record holding, Saudi Arabia nuclear tech selling, golf cheating, time magazine cover faking, El Paso mass shooter inspiring, paying legal bills for roughing up protestors promising, killed soldier “knew what he signed up for” saying, pardon abusing, scumbag.

Sources:

• ⁠lying, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/16/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/
• ⁠unqualified, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/11/13587532/donald-trump-no-experience
• ⁠draft dodging, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/12/27/trump-vietnam-war-bone-spur-diagnosis/2420475002/
• ⁠gold star family disrespecting, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/us/politics/donald-trump-khizr-khan-wife-ghazala.html
• ⁠POW attacking, https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/07/18/424169549/trump-lashes-out-at-mccain-i-like-people-who-werent-captured
• ⁠US General insulting, https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/01/17/trump-blasted-top-military-generals-as-a-bunch-of-dopes-and-babies-according-to-new-book/
• ⁠racist, https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/
• ⁠sexist, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50563106
• ⁠vulgar, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html
• ⁠confirmed sexual assaulting, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html
• ⁠trillion dollars to the rich tax cutting, https://budget.house.gov/publications/publication/gop-tax-law-showers-benefits-wealthy-and-large-corporations-while
• ⁠own daughter creeping, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-creepiest-most-unsettling-comments-a-roundup-a7353876.html
• ⁠wife cheating with a pornstar after birth of son and paying her off to influence a presidential election, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43334326
• ⁠$413 million dollar inheritance getting, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/10/04/the-new-york-times-revealed-how-fred-trump-funneled-413-million-to-his-son-donald-will-that-change-american-opinion/
• ⁠teen pageant dressing room invading, https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/oct/18/allegations-about-donald-trump-and-miss-teen-usa-c/
• ⁠baby and mother separating, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/the-weekly/trump-immigration-border-separation-family.html
• ⁠breast feeding mother shaming, https://www.parents.com/baby/all-about-babies/fighting-words-donald-trump-called-a-breastfeeding-mom-disgusting/
• ⁠fat-shaming while being fat, http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/trump-fat-shames-own-supporter-frank-dawson-new-hampshire-rally.html
• ⁠17 women accusing him of sexual assaulting, https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410
• ⁠accusers are not attractive enough for him to assault implying, https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/10/donald-trump-insults-accusers-ugly
• ⁠university student defrauding, https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-finalizes-25-million-settlement-victims-donald-trumps/story?id=54347237
• ⁠bankrupt casino causing, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/fact-check-has-trump-declared-bankruptcy-four-or-six-times/
• ⁠kids cancer charity stealing, https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2019/12/23/best-stories-of-the-decade-how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/
• ⁠taped detailed accusation of rape of a minor having, https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
• ⁠wife-beating, https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/24/documenting-trumps-abuse-of-women
• ⁠popular vote losing, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-lost-popular-vote-hillary-clinton-us-election-president-history-a7470116.html
• ⁠anti-vaxxing, https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/449525268529815552?lang=en
• ⁠Christianity-faking, https://www.kentucky.com/opinion/op-ed/article216494035.html
• ⁠publicist impersonating, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/05/13/donald-trump-people-magazine-washington/84333614/
• ⁠tax dodging, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/2/17929774/donald-trump-tax-evasion-fred-trump-new-york-times
• ⁠friends’ wives pursuing, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-sex-friends-wives-are-book-claims-true-michael-wolff-fire-fury-white-house-bannon-a8142011.html
• ⁠impeached, https://time.com/5552679/impeached-presidents/
• ⁠foreign aid bribing, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49800181
• ⁠1/3 of the presidency golf playing, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/30/nearly-third-days-hes-been-president-trumps-visited-trump-branded-property/
• ⁠free press assaulting, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/29/18037894/donald-trump-twitter-media-enemy-pittsburgh
• ⁠Hannity coordinating, https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emmaloop/sean-hannity-trump-allies-mueller-memos-fox-news
• ⁠Cambridge Analytica using, https://www.wired.com/story/what-did-cambridge-analytica-really-do-for-trumps-campaign/
• ⁠Ivanka is a “piece of ass” approving, https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-ivanka-piece-of-ass-howard-stern-229376
• ⁠loan application asset inflating, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/business/donald-trump-buffalo-bills-deutsche-bank.html
• ⁠historically low polling, https://theweek.com/speedreads/890683/trumps-approval-rating-pace-lowest-ever-among-independents-gallup-poll-shows
• ⁠college achievement faking, https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherrim/2019/02/28/heres-why-donald-trump-doesnt-want-anyone-to-know-his-grades-or-sat-scores/
• ⁠unqualified judge appointing, https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/confirmation-expected-for-another-unqualified-trump-judge-pick
• ⁠unqualified cabinet member appointing, https://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-eli-broad-opposes-devos-20170201-story.html

So could someone tell me again how anyone could support him? I guess none of this matters, or you value 'sticking it to the libs' or that few hundred bucks in tax returns over all of this. ALL of this. ALL

OF

THIS

holy shit, guys. 



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Runa216 said:

My biggest issue with Trump is probably the fact that he has had no prior political experience, went bankrupt 6 times and has many failed businesses, paid off a porn star to keep quiet, has over 24 harassment allegations, has had 2 articles of impeachment drafted against him, illegally contacted Ukraine to help him win re-election, has the most hours of golfing over any president, has done nothing to help our dying climate, botched the coronavirus response because he called it a hoax by the democrats instead of acting quicker, has never had an approval rating of over 45 percent, the whole Central Park 5 incident, thinks climate change is a Chinese hoax, told POC to go back to where they came from, throws meltdowns on Twitter, constantly retweets himself agreeing with himself, has had tweets flagged for misinformation, signed an executive bill regarding Twitter after his feelings got hurt, has increased our debt, hasn’t pulled out of any wars, adbandoned the Kurds, is really fat with a spray tan, has US pride at an all time low, has 10 cases of obstruction of justice per the mueller report, used George Floyd as an excuse to brag about job numbers, wanted to use violence against peaceful protestors, has done nothing to solve the wealth gap or poverty rate, has increased our debt, is fat and has an ugly spray tan, said he would date his own daughter, talked about fake treatments during a corona press conference, used to be an anti vaxxer, violated an official weather map with a fucking sharpie, all the shit in john Bolton’s book, said that cases would disappear if testing stopped, has a Vice President that can’t say “black lives matter” only “all lives matter”, falsely claimed there’s an AIDS vaccine, loves himself but has little empathy for others, is a complete asshole to reporters, made fun of someone disabled, the “grab by the pussy” thing, wanted to nuke a hurricane, thinks windmills cause cancer, has told over 19,000 false claims, talked more about him on a ramp than George Floyd, wants burning the flag to be a crime, called the coronavirus the kung flu, and has done nothing to help the average American.

Also the fact that he’s a lying, unqualified, draft dodging, gold star family disrespecting, POW attacking, US General insulting, racist, sexist, vulgar, confirmed sexual assaulting, trillion dollars to the rich tax cutting, own daughter creeping, wife cheating with a pornstar after birth of son and paying her off to influence a presidential election, $413 million dollar inheritance getting, teen pageant dressing room invading, baby and mother separating, breast feeding mother shaming, fat-shaming while being fat, 17 women accusing him of sexual assaulting, accusers are not attractive enough for him to assault implying, university student defrauding, bankrupt casino causing, kids cancer charity stealing, taped detailed accusation of rape of a minor having, wife-beating, popular vote losing, anti-vaxxing, Christianity-faking, publicist impersonating, tax dodging, friends’ wives pursuing, impeached, foreign aid bribing, 1/3 of the presidency golf playing, free press assaulting, Hannity coordinating, Cambridge Analytica using, Ivanka is a “piece of ass” approving, loan application asset inflating, historically low polling, college achievement faking, unqualified judge appointing, unqualified cabinet member appointing, foreign influence on our election welcoming, tax release avoiding, birther conspiracy spreading, Ukraine ambassador targeting, Russian money taking, Kurdish ally abandoning, soldier brain injury downplaying, full morning “executive time” taking, Epstein befriending, Putin bowing, Kim Jong Un praising, North Korean general saluting, US intelligence denying, tallest building in lower Manhattan after 9/11 boasting, congress obstructing, nuclear non-proliferation deal ending, Justice obstructing, unqualified daughter and son-in-law appointing, healthcare cut targeting, pedophile candidate supporting, trump tower Moscow denying, mail-bomber inspiring, 4 out of top 5 largest protests in US history causing, green energy stifling, clean water regulation destroying, healthy school lunch ending, climate change denying, congressional and judicial branch attacking, economy does better under democrats saying, Goldman Sachs appointing, food stamp removing, emissions standards lowering, press conference avoiding, emoluments clause breaking, longest govt shutdown record holding, Saudi Arabia nuclear tech selling, golf cheating, time magazine cover faking, El Paso mass shooter inspiring, paying legal bills for roughing up protestors promising, killed soldier “knew what he signed up for” saying, pardon abusing, scumbag.

Sources:

• ⁠lying, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/16/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/
• ⁠unqualified, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/11/13587532/donald-trump-no-experience
• ⁠draft dodging, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/12/27/trump-vietnam-war-bone-spur-diagnosis/2420475002/
• ⁠gold star family disrespecting, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/us/politics/donald-trump-khizr-khan-wife-ghazala.html
• ⁠POW attacking, https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/07/18/424169549/trump-lashes-out-at-mccain-i-like-people-who-werent-captured
• ⁠US General insulting, https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/01/17/trump-blasted-top-military-generals-as-a-bunch-of-dopes-and-babies-according-to-new-book/
• ⁠racist, https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/
• ⁠sexist, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50563106
• ⁠vulgar, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html
• ⁠confirmed sexual assaulting, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html
• ⁠trillion dollars to the rich tax cutting, https://budget.house.gov/publications/publication/gop-tax-law-showers-benefits-wealthy-and-large-corporations-while
• ⁠own daughter creeping, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-creepiest-most-unsettling-comments-a-roundup-a7353876.html
• ⁠wife cheating with a pornstar after birth of son and paying her off to influence a presidential election, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43334326
• ⁠$413 million dollar inheritance getting, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/10/04/the-new-york-times-revealed-how-fred-trump-funneled-413-million-to-his-son-donald-will-that-change-american-opinion/
• ⁠teen pageant dressing room invading, https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/oct/18/allegations-about-donald-trump-and-miss-teen-usa-c/
• ⁠baby and mother separating, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/the-weekly/trump-immigration-border-separation-family.html
• ⁠breast feeding mother shaming, https://www.parents.com/baby/all-about-babies/fighting-words-donald-trump-called-a-breastfeeding-mom-disgusting/
• ⁠fat-shaming while being fat, http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/trump-fat-shames-own-supporter-frank-dawson-new-hampshire-rally.html
• ⁠17 women accusing him of sexual assaulting, https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410
• ⁠accusers are not attractive enough for him to assault implying, https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/10/donald-trump-insults-accusers-ugly
• ⁠university student defrauding, https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-finalizes-25-million-settlement-victims-donald-trumps/story?id=54347237
• ⁠bankrupt casino causing, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/fact-check-has-trump-declared-bankruptcy-four-or-six-times/
• ⁠kids cancer charity stealing, https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2019/12/23/best-stories-of-the-decade-how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/
• ⁠taped detailed accusation of rape of a minor having, https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
• ⁠wife-beating, https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/24/documenting-trumps-abuse-of-women
• ⁠popular vote losing, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-lost-popular-vote-hillary-clinton-us-election-president-history-a7470116.html
• ⁠anti-vaxxing, https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/449525268529815552?lang=en
• ⁠Christianity-faking, https://www.kentucky.com/opinion/op-ed/article216494035.html
• ⁠publicist impersonating, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/05/13/donald-trump-people-magazine-washington/84333614/
• ⁠tax dodging, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/2/17929774/donald-trump-tax-evasion-fred-trump-new-york-times
• ⁠friends’ wives pursuing, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-sex-friends-wives-are-book-claims-true-michael-wolff-fire-fury-white-house-bannon-a8142011.html
• ⁠impeached, https://time.com/5552679/impeached-presidents/
• ⁠foreign aid bribing, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49800181
• ⁠1/3 of the presidency golf playing, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/30/nearly-third-days-hes-been-president-trumps-visited-trump-branded-property/
• ⁠free press assaulting, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/29/18037894/donald-trump-twitter-media-enemy-pittsburgh
• ⁠Hannity coordinating, https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emmaloop/sean-hannity-trump-allies-mueller-memos-fox-news
• ⁠Cambridge Analytica using, https://www.wired.com/story/what-did-cambridge-analytica-really-do-for-trumps-campaign/
• ⁠Ivanka is a “piece of ass” approving, https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-ivanka-piece-of-ass-howard-stern-229376
• ⁠loan application asset inflating, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/business/donald-trump-buffalo-bills-deutsche-bank.html
• ⁠historically low polling, https://theweek.com/speedreads/890683/trumps-approval-rating-pace-lowest-ever-among-independents-gallup-poll-shows
• ⁠college achievement faking, https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherrim/2019/02/28/heres-why-donald-trump-doesnt-want-anyone-to-know-his-grades-or-sat-scores/
• ⁠unqualified judge appointing, https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/confirmation-expected-for-another-unqualified-trump-judge-pick
• ⁠unqualified cabinet member appointing, https://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-eli-broad-opposes-devos-20170201-story.html

So could someone tell me again how anyone could support him? I guess none of this matters, or you value 'sticking it to the libs' or that few hundred bucks in tax returns over all of this. ALL of this. ALL

OF

THIS

holy shit, guys. 

Yeah that seems to be enough to make him an obvious not fitted president for the USA.

Even when his opponent could also not be the best ever and that the more modern candidates never seem to a chance,but please no more Trump.



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Slightly off-topic, but since the game is about politics and policies, I hope it's okay.

For those who always wanted a democratic socialist president, now you can be one:

https://molleindustria.itch.io/democratic-socialism-simulator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2R1icaPlAA

You can also enact policies which go strongly against those of the DSA or other socialist groups, so nothing hinders you to play a democrat, republican, libertarian or green politician.



I'm not American, but the one thing that really offends me about Trump is how he actively works to suppress information and freedom of speech.
The first amendment of the US constitution was to grant people freedom of speech and expression. If only one thing in the US constitution holds importance, it's that. It is not only the cornerstone of what America should be, but the cornerstone of what makes Western Civilization the greatest civilization in the history of Earth. In the last 200 years, we have become more free and more prosperous than any other civilization that has ever existed in the history of humanity. Every nation who has converted to our ideology has prospered, and every nation that still holds to old traditionalist and nationalistic values as their one truth and purpose has suffered.

Trumpism, fascism, and the last desperate attempts at censorship in the Eastern half of Europe that is occurring, these are NOT a movement toward a new age of conservatism, these are the last breaths of state enforced ignorance on our continents. 100 years from now, we will look back on them as missteps on the evolutionary path of society, not steps toward greatness.

Our civilization may not be the greatest there ever will be, we aren't perfect, but we have the mechanisms to seek out our imperfections rather than venerating them as great. Not the greatest there will ever be, but we are the greatest there ever was. The US had a sickness that turned feverish in 2014-2015 or so, and now in 2020 we'll see if it past, and they're willing to become a healthy Western country again, or if they're going to remain sick and continue to support the suppression of information because they fear challenge to their problems (it began right away, in the US, when Trump silenced the environmental scientists from letting the US know of the asteroid/supervolcano levels of damage they had been responsible for).

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Immersiveunreality said:
Runa216 said:

My biggest issue with Trump is probably the fact that he has had no prior political experience, went bankrupt 6 times and has many failed businesses, paid off a porn star to keep quiet, has over 24 harassment allegations, has had 2 articles of impeachment drafted against him, illegally contacted Ukraine to help him win re-election, has the most hours of golfing over any president, has done nothing to help our dying climate, botched the coronavirus response because he called it a hoax by the democrats instead of acting quicker, has never had an approval rating of over 45 percent, the whole Central Park 5 incident, thinks climate change is a Chinese hoax, told POC to go back to where they came from, throws meltdowns on Twitter, constantly retweets himself agreeing with himself, has had tweets flagged for misinformation, signed an executive bill regarding Twitter after his feelings got hurt, has increased our debt, hasn’t pulled out of any wars, adbandoned the Kurds, is really fat with a spray tan, has US pride at an all time low, has 10 cases of obstruction of justice per the mueller report, used George Floyd as an excuse to brag about job numbers, wanted to use violence against peaceful protestors, has done nothing to solve the wealth gap or poverty rate, has increased our debt, is fat and has an ugly spray tan, said he would date his own daughter, talked about fake treatments during a corona press conference, used to be an anti vaxxer, violated an official weather map with a fucking sharpie, all the shit in john Bolton’s book, said that cases would disappear if testing stopped, has a Vice President that can’t say “black lives matter” only “all lives matter”, falsely claimed there’s an AIDS vaccine, loves himself but has little empathy for others, is a complete asshole to reporters, made fun of someone disabled, the “grab by the pussy” thing, wanted to nuke a hurricane, thinks windmills cause cancer, has told over 19,000 false claims, talked more about him on a ramp than George Floyd, wants burning the flag to be a crime, called the coronavirus the kung flu, and has done nothing to help the average American.

Also the fact that he’s a lying, unqualified, draft dodging, gold star family disrespecting, POW attacking, US General insulting, racist, sexist, vulgar, confirmed sexual assaulting, trillion dollars to the rich tax cutting, own daughter creeping, wife cheating with a pornstar after birth of son and paying her off to influence a presidential election, $413 million dollar inheritance getting, teen pageant dressing room invading, baby and mother separating, breast feeding mother shaming, fat-shaming while being fat, 17 women accusing him of sexual assaulting, accusers are not attractive enough for him to assault implying, university student defrauding, bankrupt casino causing, kids cancer charity stealing, taped detailed accusation of rape of a minor having, wife-beating, popular vote losing, anti-vaxxing, Christianity-faking, publicist impersonating, tax dodging, friends’ wives pursuing, impeached, foreign aid bribing, 1/3 of the presidency golf playing, free press assaulting, Hannity coordinating, Cambridge Analytica using, Ivanka is a “piece of ass” approving, loan application asset inflating, historically low polling, college achievement faking, unqualified judge appointing, unqualified cabinet member appointing, foreign influence on our election welcoming, tax release avoiding, birther conspiracy spreading, Ukraine ambassador targeting, Russian money taking, Kurdish ally abandoning, soldier brain injury downplaying, full morning “executive time” taking, Epstein befriending, Putin bowing, Kim Jong Un praising, North Korean general saluting, US intelligence denying, tallest building in lower Manhattan after 9/11 boasting, congress obstructing, nuclear non-proliferation deal ending, Justice obstructing, unqualified daughter and son-in-law appointing, healthcare cut targeting, pedophile candidate supporting, trump tower Moscow denying, mail-bomber inspiring, 4 out of top 5 largest protests in US history causing, green energy stifling, clean water regulation destroying, healthy school lunch ending, climate change denying, congressional and judicial branch attacking, economy does better under democrats saying, Goldman Sachs appointing, food stamp removing, emissions standards lowering, press conference avoiding, emoluments clause breaking, longest govt shutdown record holding, Saudi Arabia nuclear tech selling, golf cheating, time magazine cover faking, El Paso mass shooter inspiring, paying legal bills for roughing up protestors promising, killed soldier “knew what he signed up for” saying, pardon abusing, scumbag.

Sources:

• ⁠lying, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/16/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/
• ⁠unqualified, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/11/13587532/donald-trump-no-experience
• ⁠draft dodging, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/12/27/trump-vietnam-war-bone-spur-diagnosis/2420475002/
• ⁠gold star family disrespecting, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/us/politics/donald-trump-khizr-khan-wife-ghazala.html
• ⁠POW attacking, https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/07/18/424169549/trump-lashes-out-at-mccain-i-like-people-who-werent-captured
• ⁠US General insulting, https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/01/17/trump-blasted-top-military-generals-as-a-bunch-of-dopes-and-babies-according-to-new-book/
• ⁠racist, https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/
• ⁠sexist, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50563106
• ⁠vulgar, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html
• ⁠confirmed sexual assaulting, https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html
• ⁠trillion dollars to the rich tax cutting, https://budget.house.gov/publications/publication/gop-tax-law-showers-benefits-wealthy-and-large-corporations-while
• ⁠own daughter creeping, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-creepiest-most-unsettling-comments-a-roundup-a7353876.html
• ⁠wife cheating with a pornstar after birth of son and paying her off to influence a presidential election, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43334326
• ⁠$413 million dollar inheritance getting, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/10/04/the-new-york-times-revealed-how-fred-trump-funneled-413-million-to-his-son-donald-will-that-change-american-opinion/
• ⁠teen pageant dressing room invading, https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2016/oct/18/allegations-about-donald-trump-and-miss-teen-usa-c/
• ⁠baby and mother separating, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/the-weekly/trump-immigration-border-separation-family.html
• ⁠breast feeding mother shaming, https://www.parents.com/baby/all-about-babies/fighting-words-donald-trump-called-a-breastfeeding-mom-disgusting/
• ⁠fat-shaming while being fat, http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/trump-fat-shames-own-supporter-frank-dawson-new-hampshire-rally.html
• ⁠17 women accusing him of sexual assaulting, https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410
• ⁠accusers are not attractive enough for him to assault implying, https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/10/donald-trump-insults-accusers-ugly
• ⁠university student defrauding, https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-finalizes-25-million-settlement-victims-donald-trumps/story?id=54347237
• ⁠bankrupt casino causing, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/fact-check-has-trump-declared-bankruptcy-four-or-six-times/
• ⁠kids cancer charity stealing, https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2019/12/23/best-stories-of-the-decade-how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/
• ⁠taped detailed accusation of rape of a minor having, https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
• ⁠wife-beating, https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/24/documenting-trumps-abuse-of-women
• ⁠popular vote losing, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-lost-popular-vote-hillary-clinton-us-election-president-history-a7470116.html
• ⁠anti-vaxxing, https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/449525268529815552?lang=en
• ⁠Christianity-faking, https://www.kentucky.com/opinion/op-ed/article216494035.html
• ⁠publicist impersonating, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/05/13/donald-trump-people-magazine-washington/84333614/
• ⁠tax dodging, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/2/17929774/donald-trump-tax-evasion-fred-trump-new-york-times
• ⁠friends’ wives pursuing, https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-sex-friends-wives-are-book-claims-true-michael-wolff-fire-fury-white-house-bannon-a8142011.html
• ⁠impeached, https://time.com/5552679/impeached-presidents/
• ⁠foreign aid bribing, https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49800181
• ⁠1/3 of the presidency golf playing, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/30/nearly-third-days-hes-been-president-trumps-visited-trump-branded-property/
• ⁠free press assaulting, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/29/18037894/donald-trump-twitter-media-enemy-pittsburgh
• ⁠Hannity coordinating, https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emmaloop/sean-hannity-trump-allies-mueller-memos-fox-news
• ⁠Cambridge Analytica using, https://www.wired.com/story/what-did-cambridge-analytica-really-do-for-trumps-campaign/
• ⁠Ivanka is a “piece of ass” approving, https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-ivanka-piece-of-ass-howard-stern-229376
• ⁠loan application asset inflating, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/business/donald-trump-buffalo-bills-deutsche-bank.html
• ⁠historically low polling, https://theweek.com/speedreads/890683/trumps-approval-rating-pace-lowest-ever-among-independents-gallup-poll-shows
• ⁠college achievement faking, https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherrim/2019/02/28/heres-why-donald-trump-doesnt-want-anyone-to-know-his-grades-or-sat-scores/
• ⁠unqualified judge appointing, https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/confirmation-expected-for-another-unqualified-trump-judge-pick
• ⁠unqualified cabinet member appointing, https://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-eli-broad-opposes-devos-20170201-story.html

So could someone tell me again how anyone could support him? I guess none of this matters, or you value 'sticking it to the libs' or that few hundred bucks in tax returns over all of this. ALL of this. ALL

OF

THIS

holy shit, guys. 

Yeah that seems to be enough to make him an obvious not fitted president for the USA.

Even when his opponent could also not be the best ever and that the more modern candidates never seem to a chance,but please no more Trump.

None of that stuff matter because the people that support Trump believe just as strong as you disbelieve he is doing a great job and that he is what the nation has needs.  I have a a bunch of Trump supporters who I know and see their post on Facebook all the time.  I have questioned them on these very subject and they have dismissed them all. They believe its the media fault that concentrate on all his negatives but never his positives.  They actually seem to blame everyone but Trump for anything which is a special gift he must have.  If only Eric was still around to bounce some stuff off and get one of those crazy analogies.



Machiavellian said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Yeah that seems to be enough to make him an obvious not fitted president for the USA.

Even when his opponent could also not be the best ever and that the more modern candidates never seem to a chance,but please no more Trump.

None of that stuff matter because the people that support Trump believe just as strong as you disbelieve he is doing a great job and that he is what the nation has needs.  I have a a bunch of Trump supporters who I know and see their post on Facebook all the time.  I have questioned them on these very subject and they have dismissed them all. They believe its the media fault that concentrate on all his negatives but never his positives.  They actually seem to blame everyone but Trump for anything which is a special gift he must have.  If only Eric was still around to bounce some stuff off and get one of those crazy analogies.

Yeah you might be right,but i do hope this all swings in a positive direction.

I'm not even a US citizen but what happens there does matter for the rest of the world and just the more people being happy, the better.



Immersiveunreality said:
Machiavellian said:

None of that stuff matter because the people that support Trump believe just as strong as you disbelieve he is doing a great job and that he is what the nation has needs.  I have a a bunch of Trump supporters who I know and see their post on Facebook all the time.  I have questioned them on these very subject and they have dismissed them all. They believe its the media fault that concentrate on all his negatives but never his positives.  They actually seem to blame everyone but Trump for anything which is a special gift he must have.  If only Eric was still around to bounce some stuff off and get one of those crazy analogies.

Yeah you might be right,but i do hope this all swings in a positive direction.

I'm not even a US citizen but what happens there does matter for the rest of the world and just the more people being happy, the better.

Do not worry, China and Russia are ready to take the vacuum left behind by the US and we shall all have new overlords.  US will lose its world stage exactly as those 2 powers wanted and Trump supporters will blame it on Obama, the media and Hillary.