So, according to the mayor of St. Paul, every person who was arrested was from out of state. While I think the accusations that one of the individuals involved was an undercover cop are a little farfetched and poorly supported, it does sound like there may be some sort of organized effort to shape the narrative around this incident by feeding into the looting and rioting. White nationalist groups have also been trying to incite violence, possibly for this reason. This may get even more crazy.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/05/30/every-person-arrested-in-saint-paul-last-night-was-from-out-of-state-mayor-says/#7cf32775264d



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sundin13 said:
So, according to the mayor of St. Paul, every person who was arrested was from out of state. While I think the accusations that one of the individuals involved was an undercover cop are a little farfetched and poorly supported, it does sound like there may be some sort of organized effort to shape the narrative around this incident by feeding into the looting and rioting. White nationalist groups have also been trying to incite violence, possibly for this reason. This may get even more crazy.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/05/30/every-person-arrested-in-saint-paul-last-night-was-from-out-of-state-mayor-says/#7cf32775264d



Runa216 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

It is sad,those that did this deserve a serious punishment.

1: Do they, though? do they, really? 

2: I think the thing that bugs me most about this is that it proves that complacency and pacifism is nice...when it works. but when it doesn't, what are you supposed to do? People have been collectively doing the 'right thing' for decades, peacefully protesting, spreading awareness through social media and activism, and generally trying their best to not be the bad guys while also trying to make a positive change in the world but it didn't work. 

3: We live in a world where 'SJW' is an insult. The idea that someone could care about progress or inclusiveness or positive change in the world is now used as a derogatory term, because many people are happy with how things are, don't want there to be any inclusiveness, are completely fine with the little ways the world fucks over minorities or underprivileged, and actively resist the idea that maybe shit like this is not okay. We live in a world where a lot of people want to make change for the better and be better people, and they're mocked and insulted and bullied for it. we live in a world where it's seemingly okay for black people to be continually shit on becuase, legally, they have equal rights. we live in a world where some people think that racism isn't a thing anymore because - at least on paper - the races are equal when in reality and in practice, they clearly and demonstrably are not, at least in the eyes of the law and apparently your average voter. 

I hate violence. I hate aggressive tactics. I hate the idea that people felt they needed to get violent in order to send a message loud enough for people to hear. 

4: What I hate even more is that we live in a world this was genuinely the only option some people have left when all other methods failed and yet some people - like you - still vilify them for it. 

Change needs to happen. This is how it happens, because it's very very clear that going through the proper channels wasn't doing shit. Your post here and the posts of the others in this thread saying the rioters are bad people because they're taking a stand against institutionalized oppression are like the idiots who cry to have a dog put down for biting its owner after years of abuse. These riots aren't unprovoked, these riots aren't without justification. They are a way to say that, no, we won't allow this any longer. IT's an absolutely last resort that shows that we've had enough. 

And the fact that your lord dampnut (Donald Trump as an Anagram) actively endorsed the idea of bringing the military to shoot people instead of, you know, addressing the very real underlying problem speaks volumes both for him and his followers. This is exactly why racism thrives in the US. Entitled white brats wiping their hands clean of the issue since they did the bare minimum to no longer keep slaves and give black people legally equal rights while never truly addressing the deeper issue that frankly, there's still a lot of racism in the world and it's very clearly being aimed at black people by white people. 

For fuck's sake, Trump was literally elected on the promise that he'd 'build a wall' to keep Mexicans out and immediately put a travel ban on muslims. HE literally campaigned on blatant racism and enough people voted for him that he actually, somehow won. 

See this riot? Minnesota fucking deserves it and everything else it gets. you know how republicans are always going on about corruption in politics and how they need their guns because they need to form an uprising in the event that the government oppresses them? Yeah, this is exactly that happening. Imagine how much fucking worse it'd be if everyone in that riot actually had automatic rifles. 

I absolutely hate politics, and I absolutely hate that so many people are so willingly ignorant of reality or twist the facts just so they can absolve themselves of any responsibility in an issue like this. I hate that people deflect questions and refuse to address this shit beyond just blindly vilifying everyone involved. Have a spine. Riot. Let the world know that this sort of blatant abuse of power won't go unchecked. 

I'd say 'power to the people', but clearly 'the people' involves people that think the police officer was in the right or bend over backwards to justify the murder of a black man rather than face the facts that racism is still very real and still very much so a pervasive problem in this world. 

1: All acts of violence like this that hurt innocents that have nothing to do with all of this should get some form of punishment imo.

2: Are you aware that most of the protesters there most likely did not want that to happen,you think those that actually commit the violence always care for the causes of that protest? On the frontlines you have the most scummiest people shaming the others.

3: Must depend on where you live,never have i ever hear anyone use that as an insult and the ones that do it online rarely use it to shame a good human being but i do have seen it used a lot to ridiculize extremism.

4: Sad how you justify acts of violence and hate towards unrelated victims and try to twist it so the perpetrators are unsung heros,when do you draw the line?

The rest of your post is an unneeded miss-characterisation of me if you really think i need that lecture and that Trump is my lord,the horse you're on is too high to include logic into this rant it seems.



Way to deliver a message I suppose. Self-flagellation if I have ever seen any.



Runa216 said:
Phoenix20 said:

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/05/29/derek-chauvin-arrested-george-floyd-death-minneapolis-police-officer/
The officer in the video kneeling on George Floyd's neck has been charged with 3rd degree murder and manslaughter.

Charged but not yet convicted. Justice has yet to be served, stay vigilant! 

Did you expect a 4-day turnaround for a conviction?  I'm kinda lost why that had to be emphasized.



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This officer needs to go to trial as well. Took out the eye of a journalist.
Those rubber bullets are very dangerous, and can maim and kill.

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Hiku said:

This officer needs to go to trial as well. Took out the eye of a journalist.
Those rubber bullets are very dangerous, and can maim and kill.

Not the same incident, but police fired these rubber bullets at reporters live in Louisville yesterday. What the fuck are they thinking?



sundin13 said:
Hiku said:

This officer needs to go to trial as well. Took out the eye of a journalist.
Those rubber bullets are very dangerous, and can maim and kill.

Not the same incident, but police fired these rubber bullets at reporters live in Louisville yesterday. What the fuck are they thinking?

Gee, I wonder.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-07-02/poll-one-third-of-americans-believe-media-are-enemy-of-the-people



Runa216 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

It is sad,those that did this deserve a serious punishment.

Do they, though? do they, really? 

I think the thing that bugs me most about this is that it proves that complacency and pacifism is nice...when it works. but when it doesn't, what are you supposed to do? People have been collectively doing the 'right thing' for decades, peacefully protesting, spreading awareness through social media and activism, and generally trying their best to not be the bad guys while also trying to make a positive change in the world but it didn't work. 

We live in a world where 'SJW' is an insult. The idea that someone could care about progress or inclusiveness or positive change in the world is now used as a derogatory term, because many people are happy with how things are, don't want there to be any inclusiveness, are completely fine with the little ways the world fucks over minorities or underprivileged, and actively resist the idea that maybe shit like this is not okay. We live in a world where a lot of people want to make change for the better and be better people, and they're mocked and insulted and bullied for it. we live in a world where it's seemingly okay for black people to be continually shit on becuase, legally, they have equal rights. we live in a world where some people think that racism isn't a thing anymore because - at least on paper - the races are equal when in reality and in practice, they clearly and demonstrably are not, at least in the eyes of the law and apparently your average voter. 

I hate violence. I hate aggressive tactics. I hate the idea that people felt they needed to get violent in order to send a message loud enough for people to hear. 

What I hate even more is that we live in a world this was genuinely the only option some people have left when all other methods failed and yet some people - like you - still vilify them for it. 

Change needs to happen. This is how it happens, because it's very very clear that going through the proper channels wasn't doing shit. Your post here and the posts of the others in this thread saying the rioters are bad people because they're taking a stand against institutionalized oppression are like the idiots who cry to have a dog put down for biting its owner after years of abuse. These riots aren't unprovoked, these riots aren't without justification. They are a way to say that, no, we won't allow this any longer. IT's an absolutely last resort that shows that we've had enough. 

And the fact that your lord dampnut (Donald Trump as an Anagram) actively endorsed the idea of bringing the military to shoot people instead of, you know, addressing the very real underlying problem speaks volumes both for him and his followers. This is exactly why racism thrives in the US. Entitled white brats wiping their hands clean of the issue since they did the bare minimum to no longer keep slaves and give black people legally equal rights while never truly addressing the deeper issue that frankly, there's still a lot of racism in the world and it's very clearly being aimed at black people by white people. 

For fuck's sake, Trump was literally elected on the promise that he'd 'build a wall' to keep Mexicans out and immediately put a travel ban on muslims. HE literally campaigned on blatant racism and enough people voted for him that he actually, somehow won. 

See this riot? Minnesota fucking deserves it and everything else it gets. you know how republicans are always going on about corruption in politics and how they need their guns because they need to form an uprising in the event that the government oppresses them? Yeah, this is exactly that happening. Imagine how much fucking worse it'd be if everyone in that riot actually had automatic rifles. 

I absolutely hate politics, and I absolutely hate that so many people are so willingly ignorant of reality or twist the facts just so they can absolve themselves of any responsibility in an issue like this. I hate that people deflect questions and refuse to address this shit beyond just blindly vilifying everyone involved. Have a spine. Riot. Let the world know that this sort of blatant abuse of power won't go unchecked. 

I'd say 'power to the people', but clearly 'the people' involves people that think the police officer was in the right or bend over backwards to justify the murder of a black man rather than face the facts that racism is still very real and still very much so a pervasive problem in this world. 

"See this riot? Minnesota fucking deserves it and everything else it gets."

>How's this for an idea: instead of Minnesota getting "what it fucking deserves", we just put the officer or officers involved in Floyd's death on trial? Work to get to the bottom of what happened and implement appropriate measures so that it doesn't happen again? Did we try that or did we automatically jump to the destroy everything "solution"?

Why does the local supermarket have to be ransacked resulting in more violence and more injuries and people losing their employment? The local mom and pop shop had nothing to do with Floyd's death but some sort of "solution" involves knocking its windows in because that'll stop police brutality somehow.



sundin13 said:
Hiku said:

This officer needs to go to trial as well. Took out the eye of a journalist.
Those rubber bullets are very dangerous, and can maim and kill.

Not the same incident, but police fired these rubber bullets at reporters live in Louisville yesterday. What the fuck are they thinking?

This crisis really is revealing just how widespread and systematically broken our law enforcement is.

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