KLXVER said:
Torillian said:
Alright, then the question becomes, why? Why do black people commit a disproportionate amount of crime? I would say that this is because black people are also disproportionately poor and that is in large part due to long standing racial injustice within this country. This is part of what BLM is trying to fight for. To bring to forefront these issues that are largely ignored, and the idea that you can't kneecap a people for centuries and then say "it's all even now" for a few decades and expect everything to be equal. This is why I would fight for things like access to education and public programs which can help people break out of generational poverty.
What would your policy proposal be?
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The thing is that no one that participated in the long standing racial injustices are in power now. Im all for helping people and equality, but BLM is not a good example of fighters for racial justice. When the leaders say white people should give up their homes. When they call looting "reparations". When they collect hundreds of millions of dollars from people who want to help and not a dime of it goes to help any black people in the country who could actually use it.
School choice is a great way to start. Which is something the democrats seem to be against for some reason.
A mainstream media that doesnt skewer the news to fit their agenda would be appreciated. Actually show people what is going on and keeping them informed instead of pitting them against each other.
Im sure there are many different public programs already available, but they usually dont get much attention. Helping people find jobs. Helping people on how to manage their finances. Helping people who has just started a family. Helping people who have just been released from jail and get their life on track etc. Lots of different programs that can be very helpful. Im not sure how widespread they are, but thats something I would like to see more of.
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So from this we can at least start on the same footing, that black people commit more crime due to environmental factors, and then it becomes how do we affect those factors to improve the situation.
That those who enacted the policies are no loner in power does not absolve us as a country from dealing with the issues we caused. You can either try to fix it or sit on your hands and decide "that's just the way our country is". I prefer the former.
If you want we can find tons of different quotes from individuals who are part of BLM. I'm more interested in the cause of the movement than shitty things individuals said as part of it. That said, I'd be interested to see where you the idea that BLM is getting 100's of millions of dollars and using none of it to help black people.
On school choice, the reason democrats disagree with this idea because it's a solution for the individual but not a systemic solution. You can't just double the number of students at every good school in an area and leave the bad schools to die (or I would argue you shouldn't). Often kids won't be able to get to a better school if it's too far away. Lastly, this just seems like a lazy solution akin to abandoning a dirty room in your house rather than cleaning it. So many other countries have figured out education and none of them have gone for this libertarian ideal of "the market will fix it". I would prefer we look to how other countries have fixed this problem than try to push towards an unproven solution that doesn't even attempt to solve the problem.