Yeah it is strange to see police of such a big country acting like some private militia.
Yeah it is strange to see police of such a big country acting like some private militia.
The deliberate and continued attacking of journalists by "law enforcement" has been incredible. Literal warzones have shown more discretion. This is straight up dystopian. It's almost like our leaders have been painting the fourth pillar of democracy as the enemy of the people for years now.
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I notice a lot of concervative have been very quiet on what Trump did with the staged photo op. It was a very bad moment for the President I wonder how people will defend it, should be interesting to say the least.
Pemalite said:
I am condemning the approach that generalizing anyone for anything is intrinsically bad and not weighing which one is worst than the other.
The catalyst in this instance was the intrinsic actions of one individual.
False. I am not beating back the oppressed. I have already stated that I support the oppressed. Not once, not twice but multiple times.
Even George Floyd's family is against the violence. It's not just me that is against it, but those who have directly been affected by this ordeal. |
This seems to have gotten rather circular, so I'll just add a couple points of clarification to wrap this up:
-I am not putting words in your mouth. I am speaking about what I believe to be the effect of your actions. I made this abundantly clear in the paragraph right after you said I put words in your mouth. You can say that you support the protests one million times and that would not change my opinion on this matter, because I believe, in practice, heavy criticism of the violence within some of these protests (see below for point of clarification) benefits those who would like to see this brushed under the rug without any change. And while some of your actions or arguments may help, that does not erase the issues I have with this particular point.
-To clarify, when I am criticizing individuals such as yourself who are speaking out against the violence which has been seen at some of these protests, I mean that exclusively as a criticism of those who are on the outside looking in. Those in the community and those impacted directly by police brutality and systemic injustice have every right to shape these protests. That is what I have been saying all along. It is not my responsibility to judge. Similarly, I don't believe it is yours. If we believe in reform and support the correcting of those systemic injustices, I believe our sole responsibility is to allow those affected to speak and express themselves, and protect them as they do from further injustice. Then, if damage is done, we should help rebuild.
KLAMarine said:
2) I'm giving your proposals serious consideration. That one concerned me, among others. |
Okay, so talk to me. You asked me several times for a proposal. I gave some to you and now you don't seem to want to talk about it.
Looks like cops are taking Trump's war on media message literally. Beware reporters.
sethnintendo said: Looks like cops are taking Trump's war on media message literally. Beware reporters. |
I wish he would let others write a decent speech to try not to incite further violence cause all that biting is good for nothing.
Immersiveunreality said:
I wish he would let others write a decent speech to try not to incite further violence cause all that biting is good for nothing. |
Trump tried to stir up civil unrest and revolt against state governors he didn't like all through the pandemic.
Well, guess what. He wanted civil unrest, he got it.
sundin13 said:
This seems to have gotten rather circular, so I'll just add a couple points of clarification to wrap this up: -I am not putting words in your mouth. I am speaking about what I believe to be the effect of your actions. I made this abundantly clear in the paragraph right after you said I put words in your mouth. You can say that you support the protests one million times and that would not change my opinion on this matter, because I believe, in practice, heavy criticism of the violence within some of these protests (see below for point of clarification) benefits those who would like to see this brushed under the rug without any change. And while some of your actions or arguments may help, that does not erase the issues I have with this particular point. -To clarify, when I am criticizing individuals such as yourself who are speaking out against the violence which has been seen at some of these protests, I mean that exclusively as a criticism of those who are on the outside looking in. Those in the community and those impacted directly by police brutality and systemic injustice have every right to shape these protests. That is what I have been saying all along. It is not my responsibility to judge. Similarly, I don't believe it is yours. If we believe in reform and support the correcting of those systemic injustices, I believe our sole responsibility is to allow those affected to speak and express themselves, and protect them as they do from further injustice. Then, if damage is done, we should help rebuild.
Okay, so talk to me. You asked me several times for a proposal. I gave some to you and now you don't seem to want to talk about it. |
Okay let's talk about it: which of your proposals do you think would have prevented George Floyd's death?
Rioting works. This wasn’t achieved by voting. pic.twitter.com/IbUE74PTyt
— Maggie マギー 🕊️ 📿 (@MaggieAustenx) June 3, 2020
showing a cop my "i voted" sticker while he smacks me in the head with a stick
— Mr. Coralville (@justinkcomer) June 2, 2020
“Wow. Cops killed a black man. Look at this video, he was begging for his life and they were laughing."
"That's terrible. But fortunately, they can be prosecuted for murder.
"Oh, my. You're new to America, aren't you? The prosecutor will decline to indict."
"What? Why?"
— Dark Tesla aka Steve Scrub (@Dark_Tesla) June 1, 2020
A good thread.
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KLAMarine said:
Okay let's talk about it: which of your proposals do you think would have prevented George Floyd's death? |
You have already asked me that question and I've already told you why it is a bad question and then answered it anyway.