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All these internal campaign counts would have to be undertracking Biden, and overtracking other candidates by 5% or more, for Biden to not be taking 3rd or 4th place. I'd say there's a good 70% chance that Biden is 3rd place or worse.



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Cerebralbore101 said:
https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-iowa-caucus-4th-place-rivals-say-2020-2?utm_source=reddit.com

All these internal campaign counts would have to be undertracking Biden, and overtracking other candidates by 5% or more, for Biden to not be taking 3rd or 4th place. I'd say there's a good 70% chance that Biden is 3rd place or worse.

I actually believe he's in 4th. Biden has no enthusiasm and in a state like Iowa, that actually matters and in a lot of the live streamed precincts I saw he wasn't viable in any. In some cases he might actually be in 5th behind Amy which would be really really sad. Either way, he's done. Well he would be done if they didn't screw up last night and all the results came out so that we could talk about him under performing and collapsing on national tv. Well, NH is next and I expect him to do even worse there so let's see how this goes.



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uran10 said:

Let's see where this goes.... Bernie released internals up to 60%

Pete is doing really really well, it's really shocking how well he's doing. But then he goes and sets fire that him & his campaign will spend the next few weeks putting out and may never be able to do so.

I genuinely believe he's victorious if he ends up in 2nd place. But the way he delivered that speech.... my god, what was he thinking



LurkerJ said:
uran10 said:

Let's see where this goes.... Bernie released internals up to 60%

Pete is doing really really well, it's really shocking how well he's doing. But then he goes and sets fire that him & his campaign will spend the next few weeks putting out and may never be able to do so.

I genuinely believe he's victorious if he ends up in 2nd place. But the way he delivered that speech.... my god, what was he thinking

So long as the news cycle narrative is that Biden lost, and Pete did far better than expected, that is good news for him. Hopefully we will get a final count, and a narrative before NH primary next week. Otherwise it just blunts the momentum of the campaigns that did well in Iowa. 



Aaaaand it's Pete.

Of course, not all votes are in but we've mostly rural precincts left so yeah.



 

 

 

 

 

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62% reporting as of now

Pete: 26.9% - 363 (SDE)

Sanders: 25.1% - 338

Warren: 18.3% - 246

Biden: 15.6% - 210

Last edited by tsogud - on 04 February 2020

 

With 62% of precincts reporting Sanders has the most votes in both rounds, Buttigieg the most State Delegate Equivalent:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/iowa_democratic_caucus_results.html



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Pete Buttigieg
26.9% 363
Bernie Sanders
25.1% 338
Elizabeth Warren
18.3% 246
Joe Biden
15.6% 210



Virtual tie between Pete and Sanders! Joe is toast! Pete should be the leader among centrists, not Biden! 

Last edited by Cerebralbore101 - on 04 February 2020

Cerebralbore101 said:
Pete Buttigieg
26.9% 363
Bernie Sanders
25.1% 338
Elizabeth Warren
18.3% 246
Joe Biden
15.6% 210



Virtual tie between Pete and Sanders! Joe is toast! Pete should be the leader among centrists, not Biden! Warren, and Sanders combined beat Joe and Pete, showing the progressive wing of the party is stronger than the centrist wing in IA. 

You're forgetting about our Haircomb Queen, Klobuchar, the most conservative candidate left, with ~13%. Also, McMeme has 1% to the progressive wing.



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:
Cerebralbore101 said:
Pete Buttigieg
26.9% 363
Bernie Sanders
25.1% 338
Elizabeth Warren
18.3% 246
Joe Biden
15.6% 210



Virtual tie between Pete and Sanders! Joe is toast! Pete should be the leader among centrists, not Biden! Warren, and Sanders combined beat Joe and Pete, showing the progressive wing of the party is stronger than the centrist wing in IA. 

You're forgetting about our Haircomb Queen, Klobuchar, the most conservative candidate left, with ~13%. Also, McMeme has 1% to the progressive wing.

You beat me to the edit. I noticed that just moments after posting.