SpokenTruth said:
HylianSwordsman said: Looks to me like the stage for December will be Biden, Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg, Harris, with a chance for 1-3 more. Steyer stands a chance of effectively buying his way into the debates, but it's not a sure thing. Yang's shown a lot of growth, so I could see him making it in. If Amy didn't break out yet, she's never going to, so she's toast and should drop out, but maybe, just maybe O'Rourke could squeeze one last ounce of momentum from his campaign. If he can't, he should drop out too. Bennet, Booker, Bullock, Castro, Delaney, Gabbard, Sestak, and Williamson should drop out immediately, they all stand no chance. Oh and Wayne Messam, if he's still running, which I think he is. He's just an embarrassment now. |
I'm almost certain he put together an official campaign just to get his name out there for a lower level political race later. He's spent $63k for something but a presidential nomination damn sure wasn't it.
I actually don't think Steyer can buy onto this one. He needs 200k individual donors but only has 166k Gabbard, Castro, and Booker all have more than he does though none have crossed the 200k mark. Gabbard even equals him in the polling count right now (1 poll out of 4 needed).
O'Rourke is an odd case. He has crossed the 200k donor requirement but has 0 polls in his favor. Klobuchar and Yang have also made the donor requirement but they at least have 1 poll meeting that requirement.
All of them are in the same boat. They need several candidates to drop and have their supporters witch camps to them (and not one of the top 5) to have any chance at all of qualifying for the December debate. If they don't drop or if their support flows to the top tier candidates, it's going to be a 5 person debate. Harris is the only one of the top 5 left to qualify but she won't have a problem getting there.
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How long has Steyer even been in this and he already has that many donations? He's using so much of his own money, there's no reason he actually has to net anything from the donations, he can just spam ads with personal cash begging for pennies on the dollar until enough people contribute to make the cutoff. It won't be hard. The polls are harder to buy, but he got into the October debate, so with just a bit more effort I think he could manage the December debate. Which would be infuriating, because fuck him and his money, but I think it's a real possibility.
I know Klobuchar is nominally ahead with one poll, but I just don't think she'll get enough, there's just nothing that she stands for really, nothing her campaign is about, no identity to her base, no clear reason why she's here, aside from maybe being a lesser known, slightly more progressive, slightly less gaffe prone female Biden that thinks she can win over Trump voters.
O'Rourke is weird, I think his momentum is probably dead but he did have a sort of movement at one point. Even I got caught up in it when he was a Senate candidate for Texas. But I think that movement is dead now. It's more than Klobuchar has though, which is why I count him out just ever so slightly less than I do her. Yang on the other hand might stand a better chance than either of them, because there's a genuine reason for his campaign's existence that's still relevant.
Everyone else has stalled. Look at that sad NH poll that was just posted where three different people got 5 percent. There's no way they're getting 6, and I doubt they'll all get enough 4+ polls in the short time they have left. They should drop out now.
Bennet, Bullock, Sestak and Messam should never have entered. Delaney's and Williamson's time was up months ago and should have dropped out already. Booker and Castro feel like their time is just now running out, and Gabbard probably too, though maybe she could wait and see if she makes the debate to drop out.