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Will Microsoft win next gen?

Yes, they learnt from their mistakes 11 13.75%
 
No, Sony has a strong pre... 53 66.25%
 
It's hard to tell right now 15 18.75%
 
See Results 1 1.25%
 
Total:80
twintail said:
Azzanation said:
Its a very interesting topic.
Depends what winning is?
Selling more consoles or being the bigger eco-system? My opinion, PS5 will sell more than XB2, but I see Live becoming bigger than PSN.

The difference between the companies is MS is looking at the industry in a lot bigger way, they are aiming bigger, Sony seem to follow the traditional sense where dominating the hardware side of things brings the income etc.

MS is a lot more prepared for the bigger eco-system than Sony is right now, I personally don't think PSNow is anywhere near the same level as xCloud and I can see xCloud winning the battle of the networks. XB2 wont sell compared to the PS5 due to this reason.

Many underestimate MS in this industry, many seem to forget that Xbox has just as big if not bigger franchises under there belt as well as the additions to there studio count they have the ammo to compete with output. Also with Sony's recent anti-consumer policies and Xboxs pro-consumer polices, MS definitely have the good on there side leading into next generation. Lets not forget Sony's anti-consumer policies came from dominating the market share. If MS come out the gates strong than Sony's hand will be forced to go back to being pro-consumer so it is a good thing that both do well for the benefits of the console industry.

Its definitely not impossible especially if MS bring the games. But like I tell everyone, buy the system that suits your needs, no console is superior, they all offer different experiences and benefits.

I suppose this explains why PSN alone (not including the rest of the gaming division) made more revenue than the entirety of the Xbox gaming division last year?

Ouch.



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I look at the poll results and shake my head. Way too many people have picked a winner without knowing anything about either Microsoft's or Sony's next console.



The_Liquid_Laser said:
I look at the poll results and shake my head. Way too many people have picked a winner without knowing anything about either Microsoft's or Sony's next console.

Well PS stakes are historically pretty good.

PS won over XB all 3 times over the span of the 3 generations the XB exists.

If you have to take your pick PS is certainly the safest bet.

Doesn't mean the PS5 will actually win, tho, just probabilities.



LOL



I wish people would elaborate more when they say sony is anti consumer and ms is pro consumer. At the start of the gen MS made the most anti consumer mistakes any company has ever made and the consumers voted with their wallets. in turn, MS has had to backtrack on all that. Sony has been the same since the beginning starting with giving away free games with ps+. no policies have changed in the slightest since the gen started. So far, sony looking more pro consumer.

Time passes
MS backtracks all its blunders. No more drm. removes mandatory kinect. copys sony strategy of free games with gold. Sony still the same as when they started. So far, looks like it took MS a while just to match sony in treating consumers right.

More time passes.
Xbox sales are still in the toilet. Discounting the xbox has had no affect in sales, so they decide to work on backward compatibility. No doubt a pro consumer move. A bit late though. Its been like 2 years and most fans have had to jump into the new gen by now. A lot of MS fans have already jumped ship to sonys team. Still pro consumer while sony has remained the same still. Still dont see any anti consumer practices.

Even more time passes.
Have sales improved by any means for the xbox? not much,still being sold over 2 to 1. Mid gen releases are announced for both consoles. the pro is out people love it, the xbox one x is just announced and is still a year away. Neutral moves. Ps4 sales has another big jump cuz whe have an upgrade. The xbox one s increases sales as well but the spotlight is still on the pro and yutubers are already comparing it to the x even if its a year away so the s is ignored a bit. So here comes the crosplay controversy. Xbox allows it, playstation does not. Keep in ind that no other console has had crossplay before. so now you could say is pro consumer. But can you really say sony is anti consumer for keeping everything as they always have been?

and theeennnnn...
Xbox sales take a nose dive at the begining of the year. No doubt everyone waiting for the X. in the meantime Games like horizon (and I believe uncharted is out by now) are making playstation fans go cazzy. MS games are starting to both drop in quality and becoming more scarse. According to some starting from this point, exclusives start to not matter, but BC is the future. The x releases as sales spike for a few months and the novelty dies very soon as xbox just does not seem to have the games to make the x shine. So what do we do now says phil......Gamepass!!! Nearly free games big new program thats bound to be loved by all. over 100 games for $10 a month...... we can all agree that at the beginning gamepass was largely ignored. I think in less than a month we had free trials, $1 memberships, and other special deals and shortly after, day one releases to big MS games. Means nothing at this point as MS games are being universally criticized. What about sony you say, well they are pretty much in the same boat, all thats changed is that after some critisims they caved and allowed crosplay for some games. So gamepass is a decent pro consumer program in a way but meaningless as they have no games to really want to make you get it.

Now.
Sony near 100m, Xbox probably not gona reach 50m by the time the the gen ends. So after all MS has done, the xbox is still selling well below the ps4. SO what else can they do? How about offer xbox games in other devices like the switch. Has not yet happened but I see ths failing as everything else. Sony is not even in the news.



Now I believe that people are mistakenly seeing being beaten into submission and being forced to basically beg for support as pro consumer tactics from MS's side. And then they see sony not having to grovel for attention and think is anti consumer. Nothing could be further from the truth. What we are seeing here is nothing more than a lack of competition. As much as MS have tried they have failed and they are not giving up. So yea this is kind of good in MS's part but what it seems to me thats happening is that they are quiting after seeing that nothing is working. I mean they are basically a multi platform developer now (if you can even call them developers).



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BraLoD said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
I look at the poll results and shake my head. Way too many people have picked a winner without knowing anything about either Microsoft's or Sony's next console.

Well PS stakes are historically pretty good.

PS won over XB all 3 times over the span of the 3 generations the XB exists.

If you have to take your pick PS is certainly the safest bet.

Doesn't mean the PS5 will actually win, tho, just probabilities.

This. The_Liquid_Laser you need to accept that Europe is the biggest market and doesn't like Xbox. USA and UK is not enough for the rest of the world. If Sony do as usual, Xbox will never be above.

Console's market is always dominated either by Sony either by Nintendo.

Last edited by Keiji - on 10 March 2019

Wow that was a long post. Sorry about that. Here is the conclusion for thouse like me that skip long post.

Now I believe that people are mistakenly seeing being beaten into submission and being forced to basically beg for support as pro consumer tactics from MS's side. And then they see sony not having to grovel for attention and think is anti consumer. Nothing could be further from the truth. What we are seeing here is nothing more than a lack of competition. As much as MS have tried they have failed and they are not giving up. So yea this is kind of good in MS's part but what it seems to me thats happening is that they are quiting after seeing that nothing is working. I mean they are basically a multi platform developer now (if you can even call them developers).



It takes genuine talent to see greatness in yourself despite your absence of genuine talent.

I predict Microsoft will have a very strong comeback. They've invested heavily in new software divisions and are going to make some great games.



Keiji said:
BraLoD said:

Well PS stakes are historically pretty good.

PS won over XB all 3 times over the span of the 3 generations the XB exists.

If you have to take your pick PS is certainly the safest bet.

Doesn't mean the PS5 will actually win, tho, just probabilities.

This. The_Liquid_Laser you need to accept that Europe is the biggest market and doesn't like Xbox. USA and UK is not enough for the rest of the world. If Sony do as usually, Xbox will never be above.

Console is always dominated either by Sony either by Nintendo.

Well NA is about as important as is EU.

The 360 massive sucess on NA plus it's head start made for the closest consoles match we ever had, against the PS3.

If MS can take NA again the way they once did Sony is going have a good fight for the whole gen.

Don't think it'll happen, but who knows.



BraLoD said:

Well NA is about as important as is EU.

The 360 massive sucess on NA plus it's head start made for the closest consoles match we ever had, against the PS3.

If MS can take NA again the way they once did Sony is going have a good fight for the whole gen.

Don't think it'll happen, but who knows.

This happens because Sony totally did everything wrong. When Sony doesn't do big mistakes, there is no hope for Xbox.