Not as well as Mario Kart but as well as many other Mario spinoffs. This site has a game database, check it out.

I have no problem with people not being satisfied by Sword/Shield, I have a problem with making up nonsense arguments to support your stance like "Pokemon isnt beloved outside of Gen 1/2 & Pokemon spinoffs dont sell well."

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, Pokemon Stadium, Pokemon Ranger, and Pokemon Colosseum sold well enough to be their own respective series. All done by different developers too.

Mario Kart is a different beast. But outside of that, the Mario RPG series has sold just as well as the Mystery Dungeon series. 

Again, as Zorg said, check the databases. It's not that drastic of a difference, if there is any, at all, between the Mario sub-series and the Pokemon sub-series.

Pokemon, despite your claims, is still a beloved franchise and has been going strong to this day. Why do you think there is a Detective Pikachu movie, new Pokemon stores, new TCG series, new anime, and the annual Pokemon World Championships? Why do you think Pikachu was given the mantle of being the mascot of the Japanese football team that competed for the 2014 FIFA World Cup, one of the biggest sporting events in the world? All of this would not happen if not for the enduring passion of the players who buy the games over the years. Let's not act like the revenue Pokemon has built was front-loaded back in the late-90s and early 2000s or something.

If you are critical of the upcoming games, that's fine. You're not alone in this one as evident in this thread. Pokemon will continue to grow whether you see it or not.

Let's not forget that the jump from OOT gameplay to BoTW was due to SS mediocre sales( and fan feedback, even though I think its one of the best Zelda games), I hope you don't play on getting gen 8, and that people with your thinking follow suit. Tell Gamefreak with your money, and they will listen like the Zelda team. 

Here is a database for you to take a look at:

https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon

If you look closely, almost all recent spin off games have been selling worse than their older counterpart.Im not making this stuff up.They still sell well, mind you, but lets not lie to ourselfs that Pokemon is as healthy as it was 15 years agp, even if it still sells stupidly well.

And again, its not me , but the Pokemon Company that always chooses to use Pikachu, Mewtwo, Charizard, Squirtle and so on when marketing their big projects.Pokemon GO?Mostly gen 1.Detective pikachu?Mostly gen 1.Even Sword and Shield had to have the obligatory Pikachu in it.

Again, its not like the other gens are not liked.They are.They just dont stand up to gen 1 and 2.

I never said that pokemon wasnt liked anymore.I said that gen 1 and 2 are far more beloved than the rest.The sales support that too, but Im not going that far.

Sword and Shield will sell well, Im not denying it.Hell, the Switch effect will make it the best selling Pokemon in a while.But Pokemon as a whole has been rather stale sales wise, at the very least for the spin  off games.Outside of Pokemon GO, its been awhile since Pokemon has seen some real growth in terms of raw number.Here is some sales numbers for you:

https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon

Having said that, Pokemon wont go anywhere.It IS a juggernaut.But the point is not about Pokemon become more or less popular.Its about I wanting the series to evolve, take a true step foward.And I am (seemingly) not getting this with Sword and Shield.Thats all I was saying.

Assuming that thats all there is to Shield and Sword, no Ill not be getting it.Much like I didnt buy Lets Go, or a Pokemon game since gen 4(outside of X and Y, which I have given a second chance, just to be dissapointed again)

The sad thing is that Pokemon (mainline ones) will never sell as bad as SS, so the Pokemon Company and Gamefreak will stay in their little cozy place for the foreseeable future.Wish Nintendo did something to take the game off their hands, but alas, they cant.

Come off the BS mate you're harping on about Zelda and Mario being beloved for years and Pokemon not being yet it outsells them easily and has for 23 years to the point spin offs of Pokemon games have sold as much as mainline Zelda games what you just tried to peddle was nonsensical hence why a load of people are now calling you out on that post if we used your angle and looked at how much Zelda spin offs have sold not one will come close to any mainline Pokemon game, the most recent non mainline Pokemon game has sold almost as much as the best selling Zelda game and 3D Mario platformer in 2 months and will possibly outsell them LT this fact alone kills two birds in your argument with one stone.

People can get any disappointment that doesn't excuse making up a nonsensical argument about not being beloved you can't hide behind the whole disappointment angle on that one because it's straight up false the are others here who have shown themselves underwhelmed and not done the same.

That is true for Mario spinoffs as well up until the resurgence of Switch which only has 1 Pokemon spinoff at the moment so not enough to make a comparison yet.

How about compare Mario spinoffs to Pokemon spinoffs on 3DS or Wii U? Mario is higher but it's not by some massive amount like you are trying to portray (with the exception of Mario Kart which is bigger than mainline Mario).

Yes, Gen 1/2 are more beloved that Gen 3 onward but that's not what you said. Take a look at the Gen 3 remake sales to see how popular it still is and with kids who grew up on DS becoming adults we will likely see a ton of nostalgia for gen 4 remakes in a couple years.

Ahoy matey, do please use some punctuation, because otherwise its hard to read what you write! Arrrrrrrrrrrr

Listen, my mate, Im not on some BS or not even on an SB.I actually think its impossible to fit a body inside two letters! lolololololol

Ok, enough joking around.Had to lighten up the mood because of that stupid first sentence you wrote.Word of advice: If you dont have any better argumentation to back up your claims, dont go Bsing people around, if you catch my drift.

And it seems that you dropped out of nowhere in this discussion, because I never said that Pokemon is not beloved.Quite the opposite really.What i said is that gen 1 and ghen 2 are more liked than other gens, but that these other gens are well liked in their own right.But even then, Pokemon is a juggernaut and it wont stop selling bonkers.The part about pokemon agmes not selling well is directed towards spin off games, and you can see thats the case in the link down below.There it will show that spin off games have indeed start selling worse in the recent years:(outside of Pokemon GO of course)

https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon

Oh, and just for your information: BOTW is like at around 14 million right now, about 4 million units ahead of Lets Go, so I wouldnt call that "almost as much".And Odyssey must be around that number.And they will keep on selling, while Lets Go will stop when Shield and Sword drops.But hey, what do I know.

And this whole discussion started just because people cant get over the fact that some people didnt like what they saw.Yikes.

I never quantified the "belovedness" of each gen.Just said that gen 1 and 2 were up there, while the other gens were down there, when compared to one another.I dont doubt for one second about what you said on your last sentenced, given that.Which is, you know, something I never denied.

About the rest, while youdo have kind of a point, at the same time Mario does have a shitton of spin offs, gfar more than Pokemon does and ever will, so it will be an unfair comparison either way.Having said that, Mario spin off games do have a more consistent performance.Mario Party always sold well, with the best selling being at 10 millions(Super Mario Party will probably beat that), but even the worse selling ones settle at 2 to 3 million.Then there is Mario Kart, which we know how it does.Paper Mario, outside of Color Splash, have all done above 2 million as far as I remember, and the same can be applied to Mario and Luigi for the most part.The decline in their sales are mostly related to quality, but since I dont play the spin off pokemon games, I cant say thats the case for them too, so Ill not hold that aspect against them.And even the Mario Olimpic games sold well, if Im not mistaken, and have been rather consistent.

For Mario, all those spin off have been consistent, and while I may be wrong, their sales mostly depended on quality or hardware.Pokemon on the other hand, has basically just declined over the years.Cant speak if the quality is the problem, since I dont play them, but my gut tells me thats not the case.Thats the difference.

Anyway, that wasnt even the point I was trying to make originally.So lets just drop this discussion, ok?