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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 2 February 2019

zorg1000 said:
melbye said:

Guess the time of the PS4 is over and people are ready to move on

How do you figure? Hardware and software sales are great.

I think from a hardware-perspective that PS4 is bound to start slowing down, software will still sell great as Resident Evil and KIngdom Hearts have done



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Heh, Japan and Europe view the Switch so differently. Japan is currently selling more Switches than all of Europe.



melbye said:
zorg1000 said:

How do you figure? Hardware and software sales are great.

I think from a hardware-perspective that PS4 is bound to start slowing down, software will still sell great as Resident Evil and KIngdom Hearts have done

Absolutely they are bound to slow down, it's in its 6th year, that doesn't mean the time of PS4 is over and people are ready to move on though.



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Kerotan said:
Mummelmann said:
Statistical tie at the top, I wonder if everyone thinks my idea that MS will release a new Xbox this year is still ridiculous though, those are some truly atrocious numbers.

Yeah they are between a rock and a hard place. They probably are desperate for next gen to start already but if they jump the gun too soon they could flop out the gate. But if they wait until 2020 when people will be thirsty for a new console then they will have to really suffer on for another 12 to 18 months. That's a hell of a long time to be sold 5:1 by your 2 competitors. 

Well based on their no more gens plan, they could try and pull a Sega, but with FC and BC. Make XB1X the base model at 6TF, drop a 10TF-12TF console late 2019 and then a beefier model (16TF-20TF) late 2021. Have a $299, $399, and $499 model available. Subsidize them a little if need be. If that doesn't work, your pretty much screwed, so time to go software only like Sega. If it does work, you've got yourself a 'next gen' lead hopefully and your back in the game.



melbye said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
King back on the top already? I didn't think it would happen till at least mid to late Feb. Damn. So I did over estimate KH3 and RE 2 then. I figured they'd do wonders for PS4 because I consider them both huge games, at least they were to me.

Guess the time of the PS4 is over and people are ready to move on

Ya pretty much, big games like KH3 and RE2 didn't really do much at all for it. PS4 needs some last big hurrah games(TLOU2) this year. 



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CGI-Quality said:
KLXVER said:

They were? Well then never mind me...

 Yup..... six years ago today, in fact!

Happy anniversary CGI. We've been though so much together, and you teach me new things every day.

melbye said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
King back on the top already? I didn't think it would happen till at least mid to late Feb. Damn. So I did over estimate KH3 and RE 2 then. I figured they'd do wonders for PS4 because I consider them both huge games, at least they were to me.

Guess the time of the PS4 is over and people are ready to move on

Don't know if serious or sarcastic, but either way, I love this comment.



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PwerlvlAmy said:
KLAMarine said:
I wonder what game is pushing the Switch up so high?

Maybe NSMB U port is the secret console pusher. You know damn well it aint the Travis Strikes Back again.  Either NSMB or the holiday effect of Pokemon/Smash/NSMB combo is whats carrying it right now, only thing I can think of 

You best not be talking badly of the latest No More Heroes. I'm enjoying that one.



Ljink96 said:
OTBWY said:
PS4 with Kingdom Hearts 3 and RE2? It's shouldn't have been this close, or hell, just below the Switch.

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My thoughts exactly, kinda expected PS4 to obliterate Switch, especially with how relatively slow Switch's January and February have been. I guess more than anything it's a telling sign that it's time for PS5 to be ushered in. Still though, great numbers for both.  It's just a tad surprising. 

There is absolutely n reason that the PS4 will obliterate the switch. At this stage in its life no software will make any kinda meaningful impact. Only thing that can do any real damage is a price drop to $199. Not $249...... $199.

As i said last year too..... the fact that the PS4 is still selling this well just dashes any possibility of a price drop.



PwerlvlAmy said:
KLAMarine said:
I wonder what game is pushing the Switch up so high?

Maybe NSMB U port is the secret console pusher. You know damn well it aint the Travis Strikes Back again.  Either NSMB or the holiday effect of Pokemon/Smash/NSMB combo is whats carrying it right now, only thing I can think of 

I dont think anything in particular is pushing it. I think this is just going to be its new baseline. Which i believe is a better indication of just how well a platform is really doing. How well it sells when it has n apparent reason to sell.

EricHiggin said: 

Well based on their no more gens plan, they could try and pull a Sega, but with FC and BC. Make XB1X the base model at 6TF, drop a 10TF-12TF console late 2019 and then a beefier model (16TF-20TF) late 2021. Have a $299, $399, and $499 model available. Subsidize them a little if need be. If that doesn't work, your pretty much screwed, so time to go software only like Sega. If it does work, you've got yourself a 'next gen' lead hopefully and your back in the game.

First ff they can't even d that... using the XB1X as the base console. It wont be FC more than a year into the new gen. The problem is the CPU..... next gen CPUs will be like 5x more powerful than the ones in the current gen consoles now. The kinda games that will be made for them will be pretty much impossible to port over to the XB1X.

And that whole have 3 sku on the market thing is just a bad idea. 

Last edited by Intrinsic - on 20 February 2019

Intrinsic said:
Ljink96 said:

My thoughts exactly, kinda expected PS4 to obliterate Switch, especially with how relatively slow Switch's January and February have been. I guess more than anything it's a telling sign that it's time for PS5 to be ushered in. Still though, great numbers for both.  It's just a tad surprising. 

There is absolutely n reason that the PS4 will obliterate the switch. At this stage in its life no software will make any kinda meaningful impact. Only thing that can do any real damage is a price drop to $199. Not $249...... $199.

As i said last year too..... the fact that the PS4 is still selling this well just dashes any possibility of a price drop.

i rectified this post many, many posts ago. In short, I expected on the tail of KH3 and RE2 that it would at least outsell the Switch, that was surprising to me. However, inevitably when the PS5 releases which is most likely more than 1.5 years from now., it has to get a price drop. Especially if PS5 is backwards compatible.