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Where Do You Think The PS4 Ends?

100M-110M 13 11.61%
 
111M-120M 30 26.79%
 
121M-130M 40 35.71%
 
131M-140M 21 18.75%
 
141M-150M 5 4.46%
 
150M+ 3 2.68%
 
Total:112

123 mill



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These who doubting the ps4 are mostly nintendo fans. They dont want to believe it can outsell the wii


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Last edited by CGI-Quality - on 03 February 2019

121-130 mils here.
Hell, not even the PS4 will finish at #2 place all-time, with the ridiculous 299 price tag and software, especially digital software sales, it is the biggest classic home-console money printer, maybe, of our lives.

You,perhaps, simply do not understand, or maybe even notice what is going on here.



Farsala said:
I am part of the pessimistic crew, as I usually am for most consoles. And I think 115m is a decent place for it to stop, VGchartz users have convinced me that 120m is also very possible. So really anything below 115m-120m is pretty ridiculous.

Pessimism is fine, as long as its logical.  I mean, I highly doubt the 40% drops I put up will happen, at least not until 2021, but I guess anything is possible.  But, one of the comments I read said that 130M was impossible, with 110M being more realistic, but even that was unlikely.  So, the guy, in all of his wisdom, thought it would only hit 105M-108M.  Which would mean selling 10M for 2019 and part of 2020 before the PS5 came out and then sales just take a nose dive.  And not even 50% YOY nosedives, but like 80%.

Nate4Drake said:
My forecast is always the same : 130M+
Quote me at the end of PS4 life cycle.
I'm saving this page.

I can definitely see that happening, especially if the PS5 doesn't hit until 2020.  This year, if the PS4 drops 15%-20%, it will end at 108.4M-109.2M.  If the PS5 comes in 2020, I could see that being only a 15%-20% drop, too, which would put the PS4 at 119.7-122M.  I don't see why a $199 PS4 couldn't sell another ~8M-10M after the PS5's launch, if the less popular PS3 was able to achieve ~7.5M after the PS4 launched.



RolStoppable said:
Why is there no option for under 100m in the poll?

Because that is unrealistic to the point of being a joke answear :)

Even the 100-110m one is really unlikely and very pessimistic.
So the question becomes,.. how much over 110m do you believe it ll be? 115? 120? 125? 130? 135? ect.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 02 February 2019

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thismeintiel said:
Farsala said:
I am part of the pessimistic crew, as I usually am for most consoles. And I think 115m is a decent place for it to stop, VGchartz users have convinced me that 120m is also very possible. So really anything below 115m-120m is pretty ridiculous.

Pessimism is fine, as long as its logical.  I mean, I highly doubt the 40% drops I put up will happen, at least not until 2021, but I guess anything is possible.  But, one of the comments I read said that 130M was impossible, with 110M being more realistic, but even that was unlikely.  So, the guy, in all of his wisdom, thought it would only hit 105M-108M.  Which would mean selling 10M for 2019 and part of 2020 before the PS5 came out and then sales just take a nose dive.  And not even 50% YOY nosedives, but like 80%.

Nate4Drake said:
My forecast is always the same : 130M+
Quote me at the end of PS4 life cycle.
I'm saving this page.

I can definitely see that happening, especially if the PS5 doesn't hit until 2020.  This year, if the PS4 drops 15%-20%, it will end at 108.4M-109.2M.  If the PS5 comes in 2020, I could see that being only a 15%-20% drop, too, which would put the PS4 at 119.7-122M.  I don't see why a $199 PS4 couldn't sell another ~8M-10M after the PS5's launch, if the less popular PS3 was able to achieve ~7.5M after the PS4 launched.

You read my mind ;)

 This is exactly why I said 130M+

 



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I think PS4 will land somewhere in the range of 135 to 145 million.

The thing that has the market unsure is how Sony is going to transition to PS5. Right now things don't look good for Sony beyond PS4. They have not built an ecosystem around the PlayStation OS, which has lead to their Phone and TV divisions be hit extremely hard since the launch of PS4. They also have not put a lot of faith in a long supported ecosystem, with the lack of B/C, and the failure to deliver or even maintain even gaming related features over the last 2 years. Right now, many people have cold feet about investing, as it looks yet again like PS5 will be a hard reset, going up against Microsoft, Google, and Apple, that have established living ecosystems, that are backwards and forwards compatible.

Sony is going to have to blow people away with PS5 and PS5 Phone/Portable, if they have any hope of continuing to play a major role in the gaming and consumer electronics industry. It is a good time for profits at Sony, but anyone looking down the road sees that they have failed to capitalize on the success of the PS4, and the chances of lightening striking again are quite slim.



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I think the 2 most likely choices are:
121M-130M
or
131M-140M

The pessimist will think it ll be just over 121m probably, while the optmist might think it can reach upwards of 140m (like say 139m)

I honestly think the PS4 has a shot at breaking 130m+ life time numbers.
I voted 131M-140M, but thats only because I think a late 2020 launch for PS5 is the most likely thing to happend.
I also suspect the PS4 will have decent ish legs, even after the PS5 launches. It wont lose sales as quickly as the PS3 did.

 

Nate4Drake said:
RolStoppable said:
Why is there no option for under 100m in the poll?

I wouldn't put an option for less than 120M :P

Basically my thinking too, I wouldnt say it cant happend, its just unlikely imo.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 02 February 2019

I say it ends around the 125-130 million mark.



I remember all those "it won't reach 100M" posts, lol.
Even when PS4 sales would need to simply stop abruptly for that to be possible.
Anyway, my 120M prediction from day 1 is still holding up very well, I would say.