With some males the skinn stays attached all around the head of the penis till they get older and it gets pulled of during sex or so but yeah it is quite painfull when it happens and the area involved will stay sensitive for a long time.

I think the thing that pisses me off most about the circumcision 'debate' is that absolutely none of the pro-circumcision arguments come close to matching the anti-circumcision arguments. Or, for that matter, just one argument.

Choice.

None of the arguments I've EVER heard are even close to the same level of 'it's a man's penis, it should be his choice in the end, he shouldn't have that choice taken away.' this isn't something like 'do we pierce his ears' or 'we want to cut our daughter's hair and make her bald'. This is a permanent, life-altering decision and change in genital anatomy that will impact his ability to enjoy sex for his entire life.

Arguments like 'it's easier to clean' are positively inane. Clean your dick. Teach your kid to clean his dick. ITS NOT HARD. Will kids laugh? Who cares? Circumcision is, AT BEST, a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Will it hurt more or be more impactful when you're an adult? yes, but again that's his choice; if he feels its worth it then he'll do it. a few weeks of discomfort to have what might be to him a better experience is worth it. A man is a child for 18 years before he becomes a man, but after that a reasonable person can be alive another 50-60 years after that. At that point if he REALLY wants to get cut, that's up to him, but if he was and wants foreskin, too bad for him. No need to get into the stupidity of religion.

But my point is simply that it's a lifetime-lasting decision based on a parent's worries about the kid's first 1/5 of their lives. Even if for some reason a penis WAS hard to wash (it's not) or it WAS more subject to diseases when uncut (it's not), then circumcision is still shorthand for "I'm a bad parent who can't be bothered to teach my kid how to not be a disgusting slob so I'm just gonna remove the issue.",

Again, ALL of the arguments pro-circumcision ONLY concern the first 18 years of the man's life, presumably half or three quarters of which he won't even be having sex. Why does ANYONE find it a reasonable decision to do this to someone at birth based solely on mistruths and shortsightedness?

If you circumcise and they resent it when they get older, then they're stuck with YOUR decision. If you don't circumcise and they wish to be upon getting older, then VOILA, they're able to. It should be their decision.

Yea its important for the parents to wash the head(water only) and slowly loosen it over time. At least that was the old way, nowadays I think when the child reaches a certain age they forcefully pull it back to remove the hassle. The old way works just as well and its not as painful for the child but it does require some dedication from the mom to always wash the area (again only use water).

The fact that circumcision IS so common in the US is a gigantic issue.
You're basically cutting the nerve endings in the penis making them feel less sensation, leading to sexual dysfunction due to the lack of feeling and control (basically leading to both premature ejaculation and inability to ejaculate, to downright impotence from a lack of sensation.


Why on earth would you consider doing something so damaging to your son and his sex life for cosmetic reasons? If I were asking you this same question about my daughter, wondering if I should cut off her clitoris for cosmetic reasons, you would think I'm a monster.

So far, I had zero problems. Just wash every day and everything is ok.

In case he needs in a future, you can do it, but as some said already , you can’t undo.

Like someone else in the thread said, male and female circumcisions are not equivalent.

Cutting a piece of foreskin has a negative impact on sensation, sure, but it has a positive one on self-esteem (hence why some people think the aesthetic value is not something to sneer about). Additionally, the smell of "smegma" is non-existent in circumcised penises.

Circumcising the clitoris is literally taking the mechanism of orgasm off a woman. The clitoris is actually around 7 inches long and the small piece of flesh you see is like the tip of the iceberg. Even vaginal orgasms are due to the clitoris (the g-spot is the other end). So female circumcision is actually closer to cutting the head of your penis off. I feel nasty just thinking about it, and I feel terrible for women that have experienced it.

I don't regret having a circumcision as a man, though. Plenty of circumcised men have normal sex lives, and plenty of uncircumcised men have erectile disfunction or inability to ejaculate.

Thanks for making me feel a little better at least lol

And (without getting too graphic) I don't really feel any sort of lack or or irregular sensation - although I have no basis for comparison obviously haha.

Glad to make a positive impact on someone haha. The doom and gloom in this thread doesn't take into consideration that a lot of guys in specific cultures (US, Jewish, etc.) actually are proud of their circumcised penises.

And the equating of male and female circumcisions drives me crazy, because frankly they're completely different. My sex life wasn't ruined by my circumcision, and I'd argue that's true for most guys who have circumcised penises. Heck, look at porn. The majority of guys are cut.

Female circumcision, on the other hand ruins most women's sex lives on a physical level.

Parents make decisions for children all the time.

Additionally, I'd argue the choice is more important for the child's adult years, as that's when they'll be having the majority of sex. And in the US, circumcised penises are just more accepted.

I'd also wager that the people complaining about a lack of choice haven't actually had a circumcision. I've never heard of a guy who was circumcised as a child complain about it in their adult years. We don't remember it. Most of us are happy our parents has us circumcised as infants.

However, I have heard about complications with regard to adult males having circumcisions. And I have heard about guys being less confident due to perceptions women have of uncircumcised penises.

I think what we see in this thread is significant ignorance to the realities of male circumcision.   I see things in here stated as facts that are not backed up by any of the research that I've done, and I've done a lot of research the last couple of weeks.  Also, equating it with common forms of female genital mutilation is a pretty big stretch.  But, I can understand where people that are not familiar with the procedure find it barbaric. In some senses, it is.

With that said, I think there is a pretty clear consensus that philosophically, performing a cosmetic procedure on someone without their consent is morally wrong.  And, as a parent that is about to have to make this decision, this is the primary factor that is leading me towards not having my son circumcised.