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melbye said:
DarthMetalliCube said:


..I did sort of rethink my envy of uncircumcised a bit when a good friend of mine (uncircumcised - he told me this btw, we're not "that way" lol) - but anyway he told me a rather stomach-churning tale about some of his skin getting .. erm "ripped" and bleeding pretty roughly at the top of his penis when having sex with his girlfriend.

The both of them should go to the doctor and get a proper check-up cause there is something severely wrong with one of them

Probably a piercing



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The thing about whether some people find one version to look strange or not likely comes down to exposure.
If you're used to guys who are circumcised, and then you encounter one that isn't, you'll find that strange or surprising. 
If you're used to guys who are un-circumcised, and then you encounter one that is, you'll find that strange or surprising. 
That was the case for us in our class when taking our first shower after swimming lesson, when there was one guy in our class who was circumcised. I do recall thinking it looked strange, and I was surprised. I believe someone asked him about it as well. His father was from Tunisa, so I guess it was a religious thing.

Even though no one teased him for it, our focus on him had to do with him being the only one who was circumcised. If it's more of a mix, like it is today in the US, it's less likely that anyone in particular would be singled out. If there are bullies who want to target one individual for looking one way or another, they have to consider not offending the wrong person in the process, if they happen to look the same way.

On that note, an erect uncircumcised penis looks pretty much the same as a circumcised one, if the skin is pulled back, which is usually the case during any form of sex, so if any woman happens to prefer that, there you go.
But echoing what someone else in here said, if a woman has an issue with how your son's genitals look, she probably doesn't deserve him. And even if that's the case, I imagine this wouldn't commonly be said in a negative way directly to the man in question.
Imagine expressing your disappointment with the way a woman's vagina looks, or breasts, and suggests she needs cosmetic surgery? Yeah, that would be an asshole thing to say, and not a person you should waste your time with anyway.



Mystro-Sama said:
No, its a barbaric and antiquated practise. And what do you mean by your child will be ridiculed? Who will he be showing his penis to at a young age? That shouldn't be a problem until hes ready to have a girlfriend and most girls don't care much about it.

The use of child is referring to offspring...not to a young kid. And I've heard how girls talk about uncut penises. Most girls probably won't care, but many do think it's nasty compared to circumcised penises, at least in American culture.



melbye said:
DarthMetalliCube said:


..I did sort of rethink my envy of uncircumcised a bit when a good friend of mine (uncircumcised - he told me this btw, we're not "that way" lol) - but anyway he told me a rather stomach-churning tale about some of his skin getting .. erm "ripped" and bleeding pretty roughly at the top of his penis when having sex with his girlfriend.

The both of them should go to the doctor and get a proper check-up cause there is something severely wrong with one of them

I don't know many of the details and I wasn't about to ask as I didn't really want to know myself haha. But I do know he got it looked at and dealt with after a particularly embarrassing trip to the doctor.



 

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DarthMetalliCube said:

I'm surprised at all the "no" responses in this thread. Being an American it's still a pretty common practice. I gotta say it's a bit of a bummer reading some of these comments as a circumcised male lol. I've started to feel a bit bummed about it actually over the recent years of reading more and more about how the pros far outweigh the cons of being uncircumcised, when in the last decade and prior, most of what I had heard way essentially reversed. Too bad I can't "reverse" what's already been done :/

It's even a bit more insult to injury to me as I have heard it's largely done (at least in my neck of the woods) as a Christian/Catholic "tradition" more so than any precieved health benefits and I'm quite firmly anti-religious..

But yeah, it's still a pretty common thing in the US (though I sense this is starting to change now that religion isn't as prominent and more information is out there). Even now to a degree, here in the US you're typically considered a bit strange or at least "different" if you're uncircumcised, and I've heard of a lot of women saying it looks strange to them.

I have to say though..

(INCOMING GROSS STORY, if you're easily squeamish you may not want to read)

..I did sort of rethink my envy of uncircumcised a bit when a good friend of mine (uncircumcised - he told me this btw, we're not "that way" lol) - but anyway he told me a rather stomach-churning tale about some of his skin getting .. erm "ripped" and bleeding pretty roughly at the top of his penis when having sex with his girlfriend.

With some males the skinn stays attached all around the head of the penis till they get older and it gets pulled of during sex or so but yeah it is quite painfull when it happens and the area involved will stay sensitive for a long time.



I think the thing that pisses me off most about the circumcision 'debate' is that absolutely none of the pro-circumcision arguments come close to matching the anti-circumcision arguments. Or, for that matter, just one argument.

Choice.

None of the arguments I've EVER heard are even close to the same level of 'it's a man's penis, it should be his choice in the end, he shouldn't have that choice taken away.' this isn't something like 'do we pierce his ears' or 'we want to cut our daughter's hair and make her bald'. This is a permanent, life-altering decision and change in genital anatomy that will impact his ability to enjoy sex for his entire life.

Arguments like 'it's easier to clean' are positively inane. Clean your dick. Teach your kid to clean his dick. ITS NOT HARD. Will kids laugh? Who cares? Circumcision is, AT BEST, a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Will it hurt more or be more impactful when you're an adult? yes, but again that's his choice; if he feels its worth it then he'll do it. a few weeks of discomfort to have what might be to him a better experience is worth it. A man is a child for 18 years before he becomes a man, but after that a reasonable person can be alive another 50-60 years after that. At that point if he REALLY wants to get cut, that's up to him, but if he was and wants foreskin, too bad for him. No need to get into the stupidity of religion.

But my point is simply that it's a lifetime-lasting decision based on a parent's worries about the kid's first 1/5 of their lives. Even if for some reason a penis WAS hard to wash (it's not) or it WAS more subject to diseases when uncut (it's not), then circumcision is still shorthand for "I'm a bad parent who can't be bothered to teach my kid how to not be a disgusting slob so I'm just gonna remove the issue.",

Again, ALL of the arguments pro-circumcision ONLY concern the first 18 years of the man's life, presumably half or three quarters of which he won't even be having sex. Why does ANYONE find it a reasonable decision to do this to someone at birth based solely on mistruths and shortsightedness?

If you circumcise and they resent it when they get older, then they're stuck with YOUR decision. If you don't circumcise and they wish to be upon getting older, then VOILA, they're able to. It should be their decision.



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Immersiveunreality said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

I'm surprised at all the "no" responses in this thread. Being an American it's still a pretty common practice. I gotta say it's a bit of a bummer reading some of these comments as a circumcised male lol. I've started to feel a bit bummed about it actually over the recent years of reading more and more about how the pros far outweigh the cons of being uncircumcised, when in the last decade and prior, most of what I had heard way essentially reversed. Too bad I can't "reverse" what's already been done :/

It's even a bit more insult to injury to me as I have heard it's largely done (at least in my neck of the woods) as a Christian/Catholic "tradition" more so than any precieved health benefits and I'm quite firmly anti-religious..

But yeah, it's still a pretty common thing in the US (though I sense this is starting to change now that religion isn't as prominent and more information is out there). Even now to a degree, here in the US you're typically considered a bit strange or at least "different" if you're uncircumcised, and I've heard of a lot of women saying it looks strange to them.

I have to say though..

(INCOMING GROSS STORY, if you're easily squeamish you may not want to read)

..I did sort of rethink my envy of uncircumcised a bit when a good friend of mine (uncircumcised - he told me this btw, we're not "that way" lol) - but anyway he told me a rather stomach-churning tale about some of his skin getting .. erm "ripped" and bleeding pretty roughly at the top of his penis when having sex with his girlfriend.

With some males the skinn stays attached all around the head of the penis till they get older and it gets pulled of during sex or so but yeah it is quite painfull when it happens and the area involved will stay sensitive for a long time.

Yea its important for the parents to wash the head(water only) and slowly loosen it over time. At least that was the old way, nowadays I think when the child reaches a certain age they forcefully pull it back to remove the hassle. The old way works just as well and its not as painful for the child but it does require some dedication from the mom to always wash the area (again only use water).

What is the foreskin?

Boys are born with a foreskin. This is a fold of skin that covers and protects the rounded tip of the penis. The foreskin provides sensation and lubricates the penis.

Some families choose to circumcise boys. This means that the foreskin is removed by surgery. Other families keep a boy's penis in its natural state.

A baby's foreskin can't be pulled back (retracted) over the head of the penis. But over the first few years of life, the foreskin gradually pulls back more easily. By the time a boy is 5 years old, his foreskin usually can be pulled all the way back. Some boys' foreskins cannot be pulled all the way back until they are 10 to 17 years old.

How do you care for an uncircumcised penis?

 Until it can be pulled back, wash only the outside of the penis. Don't try to force the foreskin back. When the foreskin can be pulled back, the area needs to be cleaned every day.

Infants and young boys

  • A baby's foreskin does not pull back easily for about 6 months. Don't force it. Until you can pull the foreskin back, use warm water to wash the outside of the penis only. Pulling your son's foreskin back too early can damage it and cause scar tissue to form.
  • When you're able to pull the foreskin back, do so gently. Only pull it as far as it will go. Carefully wash the whole area with warm water. After washing, return the foreskin to its normal position.
  • Teach your child how to pull back the foreskin and wash his penis. A boy as young as 3 can be taught to do this.
  • If your son's foreskin can't be pulled all the way back by the time he reaches puberty, call your doctor or nurse call line for advice.
  • If you can't return the foreskin to its normal position, call your doctor or nurse call line right away.

Older boys and adults

  • Wash under the foreskin as noted above.
  • Always put the foreskin back to its normal position if it has been pulled back. This may happen during sex. Or you may pull it back before sex, before you urinate, or while you clean it.
  • Be sure the foreskin is in its normal position after any doctor examination or procedure. For example, the foreskin may be pulled back to use a catheter.
  • If you can't return your foreskin to its normal position, call your doctor or nurse call line right away.


The fact that circumcision IS so common in the US is a gigantic issue.
You're basically cutting the nerve endings in the penis making them feel less sensation, leading to sexual dysfunction due to the lack of feeling and control (basically leading to both premature ejaculation and inability to ejaculate, to downright impotence from a lack of sensation.


Why on earth would you consider doing something so damaging to your son and his sex life for cosmetic reasons? If I were asking you this same question about my daughter, wondering if I should cut off her clitoris for cosmetic reasons, you would think I'm a monster.



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So far, I had zero problems. Just wash every day and everything is ok.

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