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CrazzyMan on 15 April 2008

Yes, ps3.

PS3 will never get to 90 million consoles sold so I dont think a system with a smaller userbase can sell more software than the ps2.

March 2007 NPD
PS3 ($500/$600) 130K

March 2008 NPD
PS3 ($400) 365K??

March 2009 NPD
PS3 (300$) 600k???



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2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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tehsage on 15 April 2008
CaptainPrefrences said:

I dont think any of these current gen consoles can.

The xbox 360 looks to be running out of games.

Most wii owners are casual gamers that dont really buy more than 3 games.

PS3 will never get to 90 million consoles sold so I dont think a system with a smaller userbase can sell more software than the ps2.

 

why did the ps2 have great 3rd,1st, and 2nd party support?

I think it was because it was easy to develop for, and it had a much bigger userbase which was a good oppurtunity for developers to make games that can appeal to everyone.


 Are you asking to get flamed?



Ajax on 15 April 2008

a ton of games will come out this year for the 360
probably more than for the PS3,
so how is it running out of games?



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Imthelegend on 15 April 2008
CrazzyMan said:
Yes, ps3.

PS3 will never get to 90 million consoles sold so I dont think a system with a smaller userbase can sell more software than the ps2.

March 2007 NPD
PS3 ($500/$600) 130K

March 2008 NPD
PS3 ($400) 365K??

March 2009 NPD
PS3 (300$) 600k???

And in each case the Wii will still sell more. Wii this year will sell over 700k. I think thats what the source said wasn't it.

 

Edit. Sorry it was 659k. Nearly double the PS3. 



 


 

Neos on 15 April 2008
CrazzyMan said:
Yes, ps3.

PS3 will never get to 90 million consoles sold so I dont think a system with a smaller userbase can sell more software than the ps2.

March 2007 NPD
PS3 ($500/$600) 130K

March 2008 NPD
PS3 ($400) 365K??

March 2009 NPD
PS3 (300$) 600k???

 Am i the only one actually thinking he might be joking after all? it's getting a bit obivous now..



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getrdone on 15 April 2008

I think the ps3 will because of a 10 year cycle. 2008 is really lookin good for the ps3 and i think 2009 will be a lot better.



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mrstickball on 15 April 2008

None will.

*however* if you included some sort of idea for downloadable games...It could happen. The 360 has sold 20m downloadable games since it was made. Not huge, but any next-gen system could sell 100m DLed games by the end of their cycle.

And the Wii won't sell anywhere near the PS2 in terms of software. Whine all you want, fanboys, not going to happen.

On the other hand: the DS is probably going to be the closest for this gen. It's most likely around 350m right now, and still growing at a good pace.



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CaptainPrefrences on 15 April 2008
tehsage said:
CaptainPrefrences said:

I dont think any of these current gen consoles can.

The xbox 360 looks to be running out of games.

Most wii owners are casual gamers that dont really buy more than 3 games.

PS3 will never get to 90 million consoles sold so I dont think a system with a smaller userbase can sell more software than the ps2.

 

why did the ps2 have great 3rd,1st, and 2nd party support?

I think it was because it was easy to develop for, and it had a much bigger userbase which was a good oppurtunity for developers to make games that can appeal to everyone.


Are you asking to get flamed?


 dude. the majority of wii owners are casual gamers, that just play wii sports and will pick up like brawl or soem other mario game.



TheSource on 15 April 2008

Check out what I wrote in my "Nintendo LTD Software Shipment Thread"

 

I was doing some research...and I noticed that according to http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/historical_data/index.html (under consolidated sales transition by year) that lifetime software shipments are available by platform.

 

Here are lifetime totals for software shipped through Dec 31 2007.

 

NES software shipments ~500 million (61.91 million NESs shipped in total)

SNES software shipments ~379 million (49.1 million SNESs shipped in total)

N64 software shipments ~225 million (32.93 million N64s shipped in total)

GC software shipments ~208 million (21.72 million GCs shipped by this point)

Wii software shipments ~113 million (20.13 million Wiis shipped by this point)

 

Lifetime attach rates by shipments:

NES - 8.1 games/console

SNES - 7.7 games/console

N64 - 6.8 games/console

GC - 9.6 games/console (to date)

Wii - 5.6 games/console (to date)

 

Can't really see Nintendo shipping under 60 million Wiis lifetime in any circumstance, and I don't see attach rates dropping...people buy more games with time. So I think we can say 335 million units of software is the lowest amount of software that Wii will sell realistically.

Imagine if the console hit PS2 numbers (125 million) with an attach rate like the NES (8 games). That would be 1 billion games sold. Most at $50/pop, along w/ profitable hardware....could $100 billion in revenue from Wii alone (games, consoles, liscencing, accessories) be possible over its lifetime??

Some of this stuff is mind boggling.

 



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mrstickball on 15 April 2008

Shh. I don't think he realizes the Wii software attach ratio is somewhere near 3.5 in Japan :-p



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